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Is Voris' Soul in Danger for saying there "are Whispers & Quiet Chatter all over Rome... that the Conclave which Elected Pope Francis might have been Invalid"?

There are whispers and quiet chatter all over Rome just days before the controversial Amazon Synod kicks off that the conclave which elected Pope Francis might have been invalid; a very close second to the talk of an invalid conclave is that Francis may have committed heresy. - Michael Voris [https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/pre-synod-report-invalid-conclave-or-heresy]

Laramie Hirsch said…
Well, there's this:

“Finally, one cannot consider as schismatics those who refuse to obey the Roman Pontiff because they would hold his person suspect or, because of widespread rumors, doubtfully elected (as happened after the election of Urban VI), or who would resist him as a civil authority and not as pastor of the Church.”
(Wernz-Vidal, Ius Canonicum [Rome: Gregorian 1937], 7:398,)

Does Voris---or his Opus Dei cult mind-controllers---even care? Absolutely not.

You know, one of the reasons people distrust mainstream news is because they do not put out news and information. Instead, the mainstream news' primary function is to manipulate. To control. To push the emotions of the masses. Mainstream news is the Pravda of the empire.

And yet, sadly, CMTV have become this very thing. More interested in manipulating the people, rather than simply being truthful with them. Hit pieces and gaslighting. That is what they have become known for. No different from the mainstream news. But, you know, Voris DID once say he wanted CMTV to be the next Fox News. I guess they're following the model. - The Catholic Monitor [https://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2021/10/is-voris-soul-in-danger-for-saying.html]

After reading the above quote where Church Militant's Michael Voris said in 2019, in a post titled "Pre-Synod Report: Invalid Conclave or Heresy?", that there were "whispers and quiet chatter all over Rome ... that the conclave which elected Pope Francis might have been invalid," I found it humorous that Voris recently stated:

Pope Francis is tottering on the precipice of Hell.

None of this means he isn't the pope, and such talk among the laity is scandalous in its own right. Not a single cardinal in that 2013 conclave has come out and said the election was rigged and Bergoglio isn't the pope, that he is in fact an anti-pope.

If he is, a future pope can declare that, when Jorge Bergoglio will no longer be a pope. But if the very men gathered in conclave haven't made that public accusation, anyone who is suggesting that better take into account that they too will have to give an account of themselves to Almighty God when they die.

Such talk adds to the scandal of the "little ones," the simple, even potential converts, who, when they hear big-mouth Catholics on social media saying he's not really the pope, draw back from approaching the Church. Do any of us desire to stand in front Our Blessed Lord as the Supreme Judge and explain why, in our desire for more clicks, we drove people away from the Church by planting serious doubts in their minds — that we became the stumbling block for them in never receiving the Body and Blood of Lord Jesus Christ?

Catholics who believe the Faith can also end up in Hell. [https://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/vortex-grave-papal-sin]

Does this mean according to Voris that his soul may be in danger for what he said as well as his friends in Rome who "whisper[ed" to him "all over Rome... that the conclave which elected Pope Francis might have been invalid"?

That said, here is a flashback post from 2019 with a 2020 update on "Voris' Report that people in Rome think Francis may be an Antipope":

Br. Alexis Bugnolo confirmed journalist Michael Voris' report that people in Rome think Francis may be an antipope.

Br. Bugnolo wrote:

"In fact, if you walk down the streets in Italy and ask whether they think Benedict or Francis is a true pope, 60% will say Benedict... Only those who don't believe the faith say Bergoglio."
(From Rome, "Benedict's End Game is to save the Church from Freemasonry, January 12, 2020, comment section)

Church Militant veteran reporter Michael Voris who was in Rome to cover the Amazon Synod reported there were "whispers and quiet chatter" that Francis may be a antipope:

"[A]ll over Rome just days before the controversial Amazon Synod kicks off [there are "whispers"] that the conclave which elected Pope Francis might have been an invalid conclave... Quiet dinner conversions are punctuated with topics about whether the conclave that elected him [Francis] was valid."
(Church Militant, "Pre-Synod Report: Invalid Conclave or Heresy?", October 3 2019)

Veteran reporter Voris apparently is confirming that Bishop Rene Gracida's call for a imperfect council of cardinals to investigate the validity of the Francis conclave and the Pope Benedict XVI resignation may be being "whispered... all over Rome" possibly even by cardinals.

Is it possible that Voris has heard cardinals in "whisperings" questioning if Francis is a antipope because of a invalid conclave or for other reasons?

It is known "for a fact" according to former frequent guest co-host on the Taylor Marshall TnT YouTube show Fr. David Nix that a cardinal who is known by the co-host is questioning the validity of the Francis papacy:

"Bishop Gracida of Texas is a great hero of mine for publicly questioning the valid resignation of Pope Benedict XVI. I know for fact that at least one other Cardinal in the world is questioning this, too."
(PadrePeregrino.org, "Courage over Consequentialism in the Hierarchy," March 3, 2019)

By coincidence, just a few mouths ago, Voris was interviewed by Fr. Nix in a podcast on his Padre Peregrino website
(Padre Peregrino.org, "Glad Trad 6.2: Michael Voris' 2018 Stories Revisited," May 19, 2019)

Before or after the interview might Fr. Nix have conveyed who the "Cardinal" is questioning Francis's validity to the journalist Voris?

Might Fr. Nix's "Cardinal" be one of those "whispering" to Voris that Francis may be a antipope?

Moreover, Voris according to researcher Randy Engel has connections to Opus Dei which is the next most powerful player in Vatican politics after Cardinal Angelo Sodano's Vatican Old Guard and the Vatican Gay Lobby.

If it is true that Voris is connected to Opus Dei and he is openly reporting that "all over Rome" there are "whispers" of a Francis "invalid conclave" then it appears that a imperfect council to investigate if Francis is a antipope may not be far off.

Remember that there are many cardinals in the Opus Dei orbit.

This may be the beginnings of a war of Opus Dei against the Vatican Gay Lobby who together with the Old Guard were behind the election of Francis. Moreover, Francis may now have a two front war with Opus Dei and the Sodano Old Guard since Francis stabbed Sodano in the back by firing him.

It appears a imperfect council may be a real possibility because even the well funded Francis "traditionalist" One Peter Five Steve Skojec who is afraid to answer my five Dubia questions to him against his pro-Francis nonsensical "Universial Acceptance" half baked idea is panicking.

The non-journalist and increasingly hysterical Skojec, who last year according to Fr. Nix was a phone friend, has actually attacked Nix's "hero" Bishop Gracida as well as real journalist Voris on his reporting from Rome because of the possibility of the Gracida call for a imperfect council coming into actualization.
(PadrePeregrino.org, "The Best Day of my Priesthood," August 15, 2018, Fr. Nix speaks of a phone conversation with Skojec.) [https://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2019/10/might-tnts-fr-nixs-cardinal-been-one-of.html]

Pray an Our Father now for reparation for the sins committed because of Francis's Amoris Laetitia.

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Stop for a moment of silence, ask Jesus Christ what He wants you to do now and next. In this silence remember God, Father, Son and Holy Ghost - Three Divine Persons yet One God, has an ordered universe where you can know truth and falsehood as well as never forget that He wants you to have eternal happiness with Him as his son or daughter by grace. Make this a practice. By doing this you are doing more good than reading anything here or anywhere else on the Internet.

Francis Notes:

- Doctor of the Church St. Francis de Sales totally confirmed beyond any doubt the possibility of a heretical pope and what must be done by the Church in such a situation:

"[T]he Pope... WHEN he is EXPLICITLY a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church, and the Church MUST either deprive him, or, as some say, declare him deprived, of his Apostolic See."
(The Catholic Controversy, by St. Francis de Sales, Pages 305-306)


Saint Robert Bellarmine, also, said "the Pope heretic is not deposed ipso facto, but must be declared deposed by the Church."
[https://archive.org/stream/SilveiraImplicationsOfNewMissaeAndHereticPopes/Silveira%20Implications%20of%20New%20Missae%20and%20Heretic%20Popes_djvu.txt]

- "If Francis is a Heretic, What should Canonically happen to him?": http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2020/12/if-francis-is-heretic-what-should.html

- "Could Francis be a Antipope even though the Majority of Cardinals claim he is Pope?": http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2019/03/could-francis-be-antipope-even-though.html

 -  LifeSiteNews, "Confusion explodes as Pope Francis throws magisterial weight behind communion for adulterers," December 4, 2017:

The AAS guidelines explicitly allows "sexually active adulterous couples facing 'complex circumstances' to 'access the sacraments of Reconciliation and the Eucharist.'"

-  On February 2018, in Rorate Caeli, Catholic theologian Dr. John Lamont:

"The AAS statement... establishes that Pope Francis in Amoris Laetitia has affirmed propositions that are heretical in the strict sense."

- On December 2, 2017, Bishop Rene Gracida:

"Francis' heterodoxy is now official. He has published his letter to the Argentina bishops in Acta Apostlica Series making those letters magisterial documents."

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church by the bishops by the grace of God.

Election Notes:  

- Intel Cryptanalyst-Mathematician on Biden Steal: "212Million Registered Voters & 66.2% Voting,140.344 M Voted...Trump got 74 M, that leaves only 66.344 M for Biden" [http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2020/12/intel-cryptanalyst-mathematician-on.html?m=1]

- Will US be Venezuela?: Ex-CIA Official told Epoch Times "Chávez started to Focus on [Smartmatic] Voting Machines to Ensure Victory as early as 2003": http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2020/12/will-us-be-venezuela-ex-cia-official.html

- Tucker Carlson's Conservatism Inc. Biden Steal Betrayal is explained by “One of the Greatest Columns ever Written" according to Rush: http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/tucker-carlsons-conservatism-inc-biden.html?m=1
 
- A Hour which will Live in Infamy: 10:01pm November 3, 2020:
http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2021/01/a-hour-which-will-live-in-infamy-1001pm.html?m=1
 
What is needed right now to save America from those who would destroy our God given rights is to pray at home or in church and if called to even go to outdoor prayer rallies in every town and city across the United States for God to pour out His grace on our country to save us from those who would use a Reichstag Fire-like incident to destroy our civil liberties. [Is the DC Capitol Incident Comparable to the Nazi Reichstag Fire Incident where the German People Lost their Civil Liberties?: http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/is-dc-capital-incident-comparable-to.html?m=1 and Epoch Times Show Crossroads on Capitol Incident: "Anitfa 'Agent Provocateurs'":
http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/epoch-times-show-crossroads-on-capital.html?m=1

Pray an Our Father now for the grace to know God's Will and to do it.
 
Pray an Our Father now for America.
 
Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

 

Comments

T said…
I’m ready to give an account to God about this. Are the trad media prepared to tell God why they mislead people out of the Church by insisting Francis is a valid pope?

If he is indeed the false prophet he will create a false one world Church with false sacraments, a salaried pope, and one that focuses on secular things like climate change and feeding the poor. Whoever blindly follows the false prophet will follow him into hell. So creating a false super dogma around him being true pope will lead Catholics to hell also.
Anonymous said…
Does Voris speak for the Catholic church in any official capacity? No, he does not. Unless more Cardinals come out against Francis...this is a dog chasing its tail. Francis has not been declared a heretic by the church. His conclave had never been legally challenged by a single Cardinal.
Anonymous said…
Okay, so is something Father Martin says is a heresy? Okay, now let’s paste a picture of Francis on top of his. Are the same words heretical? Or is it above your pay grade to decide?

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