I find it humorous that Michael Voris is challenging Taylor Marshall to debate knowing that Marshall will ignore him like he ignored Voris employee Tim Gordon when he similarly challenged him. Marshall is in the big leagues appearing on Fox News and Steve Bannon's War Room while Voris appears nowhere (or on the Alex Jones Infowars Show if I remember correctly).
Why would Marshall wastes his creds, as we say in the streets, on a minor league player like Voris. Besides that, Marshall is not the debating type. If he really wanted a debate of ideas on Francis, he would debate the smart historian Dr. Ed Mazza who in my opinion would figuratively knock him out in the first round in Mike Tyson fashion.
Why won't Voris debate Dr. Mazza?
Is Voris afraid of Dr. Mazza?
Also, humorous is the seeming fact that Voris who now apparently thinks there have never been any antipopes in the history of the Catholic Church seemingly didn't think so in 2019:
Br. Alexis Bugnolo confirmed journalist Michael Voris' report that people in Rome think Francis may be an antipope.
Br. Bugnolo wrote:
"In fact, if you walk down the streets in Italy and ask whether they think Benedict or Francis is a true pope, 60% will say Benedict... Only those who don't believe the faith say Bergoglio."
(From Rome, "Benedict's End Game is to save the Church from Freemasonry, January 12, 2020, comment section)
Church Militant veteran reporter Michael Voris who was in Rome to cover the Amazon Synod reported there were "whispers and quiet chatter" that Francis may be a antipope:
"[A]ll over Rome just days before the controversial Amazon Synod kicks off [there are "whispers"] that the conclave which elected Pope Francis might have been an invalid conclave... Quiet dinner conversions are punctuated with topics about whether the conclave that elected him [Francis] was valid."
(Church Militant, "Pre-Synod Report: Invalid Conclave or Heresy?", October 3 2019)
Veteran reporter Voris apparently is confirming that Bishop Rene Gracida's call for a imperfect council of cardinals to investigate the validity of the Francis conclave and the Pope Benedict XVI resignation may be being "whispered... all over Rome" possibly even by cardinals.
Is it possible that Voris has heard cardinals in "whisperings" questioning if Francis is a antipope because of a invalid conclave or for other reasons?
It is known "for a fact" according to former frequent guest co-host on the Taylor Marshall TnT YouTube show Fr. David Nix that a cardinal who is known by the co-host is questioning the validity of the Francis papacy:
"Bishop Gracida of Texas is a great hero of mine for publicly questioning the valid resignation of Pope Benedict XVI. I know for fact that at least one other Cardinal in the world is questioning this, too."
(PadrePeregrino.org, "Courage over Consequentialism in the Hierarchy," March 3, 2019)
By coincidence, just a few mouths ago, Voris was interviewed by Fr. Nix in a podcast on his Padre Peregrino website
(Padre Peregrino.org, "Glad Trad 6.2: Michael Voris' 2018 Stories Revisited," May 19, 2019)
Before or after the interview might Fr. Nix have conveyed who the "Cardinal" is questioning Francis's validity to the journalist Voris?
Might Fr. Nix's "Cardinal" be one of those "whispering" to Voris that Francis may be a antipope?
Moreover, Voris according to researcher Randy Engel has connections to Opus Dei which is the next most powerful player in Vatican politics after Cardinal Angelo Sodano's Vatican Old Guard and the Vatican Gay Lobby.
If it is true that Voris is connected to Opus Dei and he is openly reporting that "all over Rome" there are "whispers" of a Francis "invalid conclave" then it appears that a imperfect council to investigate if Francis is a antipope may not be far off.
Remember that there are many cardinals in the Opus Dei orbit.
This may be the beginnings of a war of Opus Dei against the Vatican Gay Lobby who together with the Old Guard were behind the election of Francis. Moreover, Francis may now have a two front war with Opus Dei and the Sodano Old Guard since Francis stabbed Sodano in the back by firing him.
It appears a imperfect council may be a real possibility because even the well funded Francis "traditionalist" One Peter Five Steve Skojec who is afraid to answer my five Dubia questions to him against his pro-Francis nonsensical "Universial Acceptance" half baked idea is panicking.
The non-journalist and increasingly hysterical Skojec, who last year according to Fr. Nix was a phone friend, has actually attacked Nix's "hero" Bishop Gracida as well as real journalist Voris on his reporting from Rome because of the possibility of the Gracida call for a imperfect council coming into actualization.
(PadrePeregrino.org, "The Best Day of my Priesthood," August 15, 2018, Fr. Nix speaks of a phone conversation with Skojec.) [https://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2019/10/might-tnts-fr-nixs-cardinal-been-one-of.html]
Sadly, Voris needs to read up on some Church Doctors of the Church if he wants to debate the plumber or anyone on his favorite definitely the pope Francis:
Voris' opinion is:
"No member of the laity can sit in judgment over a pope. Only God judges the pope. And then when the man who was pope dies and is no longer pope, a future pope can judge him and declare him an anti-pope. If others want to venture into those waters ahead of a future pope, you go right ahead, but I would greatly caution you spiritually." [https://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/vortex-enemies-of-the-pope]
Is Voris' opinion true?
Cardinal Raymond Burke showed in an 2016 interview with the Catholic World Report that he knew the teaching of Doctor of the Church St. Francis de Sales:
[T]he Pope... when he is explicitly a heretic... falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church either deprive him, or, as some say, declare him deprived, of his Apostolic See."
(The Catholic Controversy by St. Francis de Sales, Pages 305-306)
Cardinal Raymond Burke in the interview responded to the Voris opinion.
In the interview, Burke said:
"CWR: Can the pope legitimately be declared in schism or heresy?"
"Cardinal Burke: 'If a Pope would formally profess heresy he would cease, by that act, to be the Pope. It's automatic. And so, that could happen... '"
"... CWR: Who is competent to declare him to be in heresy?"
"Cardinal Burke: 'It would have to be members of the College of Cardinals.'"
(Catholic World Report, "No, I am not saying that Pope Francis is in heresy," December 19, 2016)
Is Francis possibly in "explicit" heresy?
"There is no other interpretations."
The French King Philippe de Valois, a "member of the laity," not being cautious and timid like Voris wasn't afraid to issue a correction against heresy with a warning:
"Philippe de Valois... threatened John XXII with burning at the stake, as a heretic."
(On History: Introduction to the History (1831), By Jules Michelet, Page 126)
If King de Valois were alive today would he with a correction have "threatened" Francis for his Communion for adulterers heresy "with burning at the stake, as a heretic" unlike the cautious Voris?
Is it possible for someone to be an antipope even though the majority of cardinals claim he is pope according to Doctor of the Church St. Bernard?
The case of Antipope Anacletus II proves that it is possible for a majority of cardinals to claim a man is pope while he, in reality, is a antipope.
In 1130, a majority of cardinals voted for Cardinal Peter Pierleone to be pope. He called himself Anacletus II. He was proclaimed pope and ruled Rome for eight years by vote and consent of a absolute majority of the cardinals despite the fact he was a antipope.
Again, how is this possible when the absolute majority of cardinals voted for Anacletus?
"[C]anon law does not bind a Pope arranging for his successor... [Papal Chancellor] Haimeric proposed that... a commission of eight cardinals should be selected to choose the next Pope... strong evidence [shows] that the Pope [Honorius] endorsed what Haimeric was doing, including the establishment of the electoral commission [of eight cardinals]."
The majority or "sanior pars," five cardinals out of eight of "the electoral commission," elected Pope Innocent II as St. Bernard said and as evidence shows was the will of the previous pope in what we can call a constitution for the election of his successor.
"Papal election procedures are governed by the prescription of the last Pope who provided for them (that is, any Pope can change them, but they remain in effect until they are changed by a duly elected Pope)."
"During the first thousand years of the history of the Papacy the electors were the clergy of Rome (priests and deacons); during the second thousand years we have had the College of Cardinals."
"But each Pope, having unlimited sovereign power as head of the Church, can prescribe any method for the election of his successor(s) that he chooses. These methods must then be followed in the next election after the death of the Pope who prescribed it, and thereafter until they are changed. A Papal claimant not following these methods is also an Antipope."
"Since Antipopes by definition base their claims on defiance of proper Church authority, all have been harmful to the Church, though a few have later reformed after giving up their claims."
Patrick Coffin on his YouTube show asked Cardinal Raymond Burke is it possible that evidence might invalidate the "[Francis] conclave":
"I was wondering rather if those rules [of the 2013 conclave that elected Francis] were violated and rather or not the whole election of Francis may be invalid. Is there any foundation for that speculation?"
Cardinal Burke answered:
"The only grounds that could be used for calling into question the validity of the election would be were the election organized by a campaign beforehand which is strictly forbidden and that would be difficult to demonstrate..."
"... If these persons [the gay lobby St. Gallen Mafia cardinals] engaged in a active campaign first to undermined Pope Benedict XVI and at the same time to engineer the election of someone [Francis] then that could be a argument. I don't think I have the facts, and there have to be facts, to prove that. That's all I have to say about that."
(Patrick Coffin show, "141: Dubia Cardinal Goes on the Record - Raymond Cardinal Burke (Free Version)," Premiered 13 hours ago, 19:55 to 21:46)
Coffin about a minute later said "Bishop Henry Rene Gracida... has written a Open Letter to the cardinals saying only a imperfect synod could be called and resolve this."
My question to Cardinal Burke is:
Why would proving that the gay lobby St. Gallen Mafia "undermined Pope Benedict XVI and at the same time engineer[ed] the election of someone [Francis]" be "very difficult to demonstrate"?
The leftist Fittipaldi who considers Francis a man of "courage" says the Vatican gay lobby is "often composed" of "conservatives" who apparently “campaigned” to cause Pope Benedict XVI to resign with the "war of documents" that was Vatileaks:
"The story of the gay lobby has... importance in the Vatileaks and the dismissal of Pope Ratzinger... He destroyed the careers of those who were with them. To stop this group, a group of supporters of Ratzinger began to issue a series of documents, which was called Vatileaks. [Para travar este grupo, um grupo de apoiantes de Ratzinger começou a fazer sair uma série de documentos, a que se chamou Vatileaks 1.] I can say this shock, this war of [Vatileaks] documents led to the end of Ratzinger."
"... [T]hey [the gay lobby] are often composed of the most conservative men in the Church. It is a paradox, but it is so. Certainly the doctrine [against homosexuality] has not been changed because the conservative homosexual and heterosexual world is in the majority. Francis, from this point of view, is considered a heretic. In this I very much support the courage of Francis, a visionary courage, because if the Church does not change and does not open to the world, it risks entering into an irreversible crisis."
"... Ratzinger made... war against pedophilia... [h]e just started and resigned."
(Comunidadeculturaearte.com, "Emiliano Fittipaldi: For Francis paedophilia is a secondary issue," October 20, 2017) [[https://www.comunidadeculturaearte.com/emiliano-fittipaldi-para-francisco-a-pedofilia-e-uma-questao-secundaria/]
Pray an Our Father now for reparation for the sins committed because of Francis's Amoris Laetitia.
Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
Stop for a moment of silence, ask Jesus Christ what He wants you to do now and next. In this silence remember God, Father, Son and Holy Ghost - Three Divine Persons yet One God, has an ordered universe where you can know truth and falsehood as well as never forget that He wants you to have eternal happiness with Him as his son or daughter by grace. Make this a practice. By doing this you are doing more good than reading anything here or anywhere else on the Internet.
- Doctor of the Church St. Francis de Sales totally confirmed beyond any doubt the possibility of a heretical pope and what must be done by the Church in such a situation:
"[T]he Pope... WHEN he is EXPLICITLY a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church, and the Church MUST either deprive him, or, as some say, declare him deprived, of his Apostolic See."
(The Catholic Controversy, by St. Francis de Sales, Pages 305-306)
Saint Robert Bellarmine, also, said "the Pope heretic is not deposed ipso facto, but must be declared deposed by the Church."
- "If Francis is a Heretic, What should Canonically happen to him?": http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2020/12/if-francis-is-heretic-what-should.html
- "Could Francis be an Antipope even though the Majority of Cardinals claim he is Pope?": http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2019/03/could-francis-be-antipope-even-though.html
- LifeSiteNews, "Confusion explodes as Pope Francis throws magisterial weight behind communion for adulterers," December 4, 2017:
The AAS guidelines explicitly allows "sexually active adulterous couples facing 'complex circumstances' to 'access the sacraments of Reconciliation and the Eucharist.'"
- On February 2018, in Rorate Caeli, Catholic theologian Dr. John Lamont:
"The AAS statement... establishes that Pope Francis in Amoris Laetitia has affirmed propositions that are heretical in the strict sense."
- On December 2, 2017, Bishop Rene Gracida:
"Francis' heterodoxy is now official. He has published his letter to the Argentina bishops in Acta Apostlica Series making those letters magisterial documents."
Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church by the bishops by the grace of God.
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