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Are Cdl. Mueller & Bishop Schneider arguing: "we all have to accept the fact that Bergoglio is the Pope because he is. The issue is excluded rather than resolved"?

 Patrick Coffin Responds to his Critics

Patrick Coffin Responds to his Critics

Seven Pieces of Evidence That Francis Is an Antipope

Archbishop Schneider: Supporting an anti-Pope is the Tradition of the Church

Today [], the former highest doctrinal authority in the Church, ex-Prefect of the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Gerhard Muller admitted that Francis could be an Antipope.

Remember that only an Antipope when he speaks "ex cathedra" can speak what is "invalid" because the false pope's papacy is invalid.

LifeSiteNews reported that Cardinal Muller said:

"'[I]f he [Francis] spoke ex cathedra... make[ing] possible the ordination of women... in contradiction to the defined doctrine of the Church,' he continues"

"'It would be invalid,' he adds."
(LifeSiteNews, "Cardinal Muller: No pope or council could permit female deacons, 'it would be invalid," Friday July 26, 2019) -The Catholic Monitor [https://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2019/07/cdl-mueller-francis-could-be-antipope.html]

The following was texted to The Catholic Monitor (CM) by a good friend of CM:

Wow. Bishop Schneider has found it necessary to respond to the BiP position (see Lifesite article:https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/bishop-schneider-theory-that-benedict-xvi-is-pope-and-not-francis-defies-tradition-of-the-church/) 

His response boils down to the (in my opinion) ludicrous contention that there can't be any such thing as a reigning antipope because God, in His goodness wouldn't allow it.

"in this case" (BiP) "one absolutizes the aspect of legality"

What the heck? Isn't this an admission, by Bishop Schneider, that "Francis" isn't--legally--the pope?

So Bishop Schneider thinks "Francis" is the pope because he (Schneider) agrees with Amoris laetitia Chapter 8, in which it is contented that "law"--namely, God's--shouldn't be "absolutized," either

So the next time I get pulled over for speeding, I can say, "Offficer, in this case one is absolutizing that aspect of legality"--right?

Now Cardinal Mueller has come out against BiP at Lifesite, too.

Remember Han Solo saying, "Musta hit pretty close to the mark to get 'em all riled up like that--huh, kid?'

Mueller's argument, like Schneider's assumes what it sets out to prove. Mueller states that the Holy Spirit guides the Church and that the pope deserves our respect, blah blah blah.

In other words, we all have to accept the fact that Bergoglio is the pope because he is. The issue is excluded rather than resolved.

Pray an Our Father now for reparation for the sins committed because of Francis's Amoris Laetitia.

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Stop for a moment of silence, ask Jesus Christ what He wants you to do now and next. In this silence remember God, Father, Son and Holy Ghost - Three Divine Persons yet One God, has an ordered universe where you can know truth and falsehood as well as never forget that He wants you to have eternal happiness with Him as his son or daughter by grace. Make this a practice. By doing this you are doing more good than reading anything here or anywhere else on the Internet.

Francis Notes:

- Doctor of the Church St. Francis de Sales totally confirmed beyond any doubt the possibility of a heretical pope and what must be done by the Church in such a situation:

"[T]he Pope... WHEN he is EXPLICITLY a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church, and the Church MUST either deprive him, or, as some say, declare him deprived, of his Apostolic See."
(The Catholic Controversy, by St. Francis de Sales, Pages 305-306)


Saint Robert Bellarmine, also, said "the Pope heretic is not deposed ipso facto, but must be declared deposed by the Church."
[https://archive.org/stream/SilveiraImplicationsOfNewMissaeAndHereticPopes/Silveira%20Implications%20of%20New%20Missae%20and%20Heretic%20Popes_djvu.txt]

- "If Francis is a Heretic, What should Canonically happen to him?": http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2020/12/if-francis-is-heretic-what-should.html

- "Could Francis be a Antipope even though the Majority of Cardinals claim he is Pope?": http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2019/03/could-francis-be-antipope-even-though.html

- If Francis betrays Benedict XVI & the"Roman Rite Communities" like he betrayed the Chinese Catholics we must respond like St. Athanasius, the Saintly English Bishop Robert Grosseteste & "Eminent Canonists and Theologians" by "Resist[ing]" him: https://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2021/12/if-francis-betrays-benedict-xvi.html 

 -  LifeSiteNews, "Confusion explodes as Pope Francis throws magisterial weight behind communion for adulterers," December 4, 2017:

The AAS guidelines explicitly allows "sexually active adulterous couples facing 'complex circumstances' to 'access the sacraments of Reconciliation and the Eucharist.'"

-  On February 2018, in Rorate Caeli, Catholic theologian Dr. John Lamont:  
 

"The AAS statement... establishes that Pope Francis in Amoris Laetitia has affirmed propositions that are heretical in the strict sense."

- On December 2, 2017, Bishop Rene Gracida:

"Francis' heterodoxy is now official. He has published his letter to the Argentina bishops in Acta Apostlica Series making those letters magisterial documents."

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church by the bishops by the grace of God.

Election Notes:  

- Intel Cryptanalyst-Mathematician on Biden Steal: "212Million Registered Voters & 66.2% Voting,140.344 M Voted...Trump got 74 M, that leaves only 66.344 M for Biden" [http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2020/12/intel-cryptanalyst-mathematician-on.html?m=1]

- Will US be Venezuela?: Ex-CIA Official told Epoch Times "Chávez started to Focus on [Smartmatic] Voting Machines to Ensure Victory as early as 2003": http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2020/12/will-us-be-venezuela-ex-cia-official.html

- Tucker Carlson's Conservatism Inc. Biden Steal Betrayal is explained by “One of the Greatest Columns ever Written" according to Rush: http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/tucker-carlsons-conservatism-inc-biden.html?m=1
 
- A Hour which will Live in Infamy: 10:01pm November 3, 2020:
http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2021/01/a-hour-which-will-live-in-infamy-1001pm.html?m=1
 
What is needed right now to save America from those who would destroy our God given rights is to pray at home or in church and if called to even go to outdoor prayer rallies in every town and city across the United States for God to pour out His grace on our country to save us from those who would use a Reichstag Fire-like incident to destroy our civil liberties. [Is the DC Capitol Incident Comparable to the Nazi Reichstag Fire Incident where the German People Lost their Civil Liberties?: http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/is-dc-capital-incident-comparable-to.html?m=1 and Epoch Times Show Crossroads on Capitol Incident: "Anitfa 'Agent Provocateurs'":
http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/epoch-times-show-crossroads-on-capital.html?m=1

Pray an Our Father now for the grace to know God's Will and to do it.
 
Pray an Our Father now for America.
 
Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Comments

Aqua said…
Your e-mail correspondent made this excellent observation about the illogic which the "FrannyPapists" insist is convincing and decisive in their favor of the status quo: " ... we all have to accept the fact that Bergoglio is the pope because he is."

"How do I know he is Pope? Because he is".

Well, if that is so ...

"What about the previous Pope who never left? Isn't that substantial error, aka illegal?"
"The Church says he can't remain Pope, so he can't actually be there; even though he seems to be there - he is not, because he can't be."
"But he is there".
"No, he can't be, because that would be impossible according to Church Sacred Tradition".
"But ... who is it then? Why is he there?"
"Not sure. Doesn't matter".

When you are living within Sacred Tradition, it's easy - you just source action flowing from prior Magisterial authority. Everything fits in this Divine "puzzle" of the Catholic Faith.

When you are living in opposition to Sacred Tradition (Depositum Fidei), it is impossible - you have no precedent authority in the Magisterium, so you have to make everything up. Nothing fits in the "puzzle". Only a hammer (compulsion) can make the pieces fit, but everything surrounding your new piece gets smashed by the hammer in your futile efforts. Pretty soon, you don't have much of a picture any more and the puzzle itself is a ruin.

"It is, because it is" ... is essentially the reason given to me by my SSPX Priest (just like Mueller's and Schneider's reasons), why he accepts Francis as Pope. The piece fits in some particulars, but it does not fit in every particular and so ... even though it is close, it ultimately doesn't fit. And the continued attempt to make it fit is causing great harm to the Faith, the longer the piece is used, rather than discarded. A puzzle piece sourced in every way in Canon Law and Sacred Tradition will result in "universal acceptance", and a just Conclave election leading to further just outcomes in the ensuing Papacy.
Anonymous said…
Aqua, you're not a true SSPXer...they accept Francis as Pope. Anyone that dare say he's not Pope at the SSPX automatically is suspected of being sedevacantist.

The society is never going to say that Benedict didn't resign, and they accept Francis as Pope.
Anonymous said…
I’m curious if the SSPX agrees that heretics are not members of the Church and to be a heretics all you have to do is cling to heresy with pertinacity knowing what the Church teaches. Would they, for instance, claim that any cleric claiming that the Church’s teaching on homosexual marriage is wrong is a heretic, or would they say they can’t be sure because nobody formally excommunicated him?
Anonymous said…
"I’m curious if the SSPX agrees that heretics are not members of the Church and to be a heretics all you have to do is cling to heresy with pertinacity knowing what the Church teaches. Would they, for instance, claim that any cleric claiming that the Church’s teaching on homosexual marriage is wrong is a heretic, or would they say they can’t be sure because nobody formally excommunicated him?"

Has the church formally declared anything on Francis being a formal heretic? No...he is more clever than you'd think. He makes sure to just say things that cause people discomfort but then he'll later say something to make it look like he's not trying to be too radical or retract the statements in a manner of not actually retracting them, but reframing them.
Anonymous said…
Patrick Coffin threw Mazza under the bus, he's not in the substantial error camp.
Anonymous said…
So SSPX would recognize that the LGBT cleric is not a heretic? Got it.
Anonymous said…
Go ask the SSPX

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