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“Lefebvre Moment”: LifeSiteNews like the Remnant wants us to "Stand Together" against Francis's attack on "the Very Foundation of the Church"

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Today, LifeSiteNews said Francis's suppression of the Traditional Latin Mass is a New “Lefebvre Moment” for all Traditionalist to "stand together":

In a sense, it is now for many a “Lefebvre moment,” as Peter Kwasniewski just put it, when he wrote: “It will be, in short, a “Lefebvre Moment” for the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, the Institute of Christ the King, the Institute of the Good Shepherd, and any other such bodies.

“The only honorable response they can make,” the liturgy expert continued, “is: Non possumus—we cannot, in good conscience, comply with these prescriptions. Throw at us any penalties or punishments you wish; we will ignore them all, because they will have no force. A future pope will vindicate us, as John Paul II and Benedict XVI did with adherents of tradition decades ago.”

All these groups should now come together, help each other out and build networks in order to provide the Sacraments of Tradition. For, when we build a loose federation or union – or, as it now happened in France, an association of those wish to remain loyal to the missal of St. Pope Pius V – would not many Catholics feel assured that there is no schismatic spirit, but, rather, that there is a strong ecclesial community willing to stand together for Tradition? [https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/this-changes-everything-observations-about-the-current-situation-in-church-and-the-state/]

Last year, The Remnant newspaper also asked all Trads to "stand together."

The response that The Catholic Monitor gave last years is for the most part the same response we give to LifeSiteNews' new call for us to "stand together." Here is a flashback of last year's post which also mentions One Peter Five's former publisher Steve Skojec's name-calling of Traditionalists which appears to be happening behind the scenes to some extent implicitly and explicitly by the new 1P5 publisher Eric Sammons and others:

Could the Remnant editor Michael Matt's "Francis is definitely pope" bias, that Francis is pope because that's an infallible dogma of the Francis Creed, finally be starting to crack?
[Click here to read the Francis Creed: http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2020/01/are-1p5-and-where-peter-is-going-to.html?m=1]

I know from someone who knows the inner workings of Matt's editorship of the Remnant because she has written for him that he "has not allowed phrases like 'questionably legal'" before in his newspaper or website that appeared in the article "APOSTASY AND OLD LACE: Do We Have an Uncle Benny Brewster in the Attic?":


- "... Nearly seven years after his resignation from the Papacy, (questionably legal, but certainly effective) the good bishop has found himself to be in fine fiddle, enough to coauthor a new book with Robert Cardinal Sarah on priestly celibacy."
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https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/headline-news-around-the-world/item/4732-apostasy-and-old-lace-do-we-have-an-uncle-benny-brewster-in-the-attic]

In fact, Matt in his latest YouTube video "DONALD TRUMP: Vatican Public Enemy No. 1" appears to be claiming he and the other "Francis is definitely pope" traditionalists may be willing to call a ceasefire and stop their attacks, misrepresentations and blacklisting of the BiP[Benedict is Pope] movement and the Bishop Rene Gracida movement. He said:

"I may have it wrong. You may have it wrong. But what is important, right now, is that we do not dogmatize opinion on some of this... Don't panic. Stay close. Keep praying. Stay together. We can do that. We can all stand together. Do our part without anathematizing. Let's give it a try."
("DONALD TRUMP: Vatican Public Enemy No. 1": https://youtu.be/WBUHhQrct_M, 24:22-24:31 and 26:51-27:02])

Sadly, I am tempted to think Matt is using the "Good cop/bad cop" routine:

"The 'bad cop' takes an aggressive, negative stance towards the subject, making blatant accusations, derogatory comments, threats, and in general creating antipathy between the subject and themself. This sets the stage for the "good cop" to act sympathetically, appearing supportive and understanding, and in general showing sympathy for the subject. The good cop will also defend the subject from the bad cop. The subject may feel they can cooperate with the good cop either out of trust or out of fear of the bad cop. They may then seek protection by and trust the good cop and provide the information the interrogators are seeking.[3] "

"This technique also has its disadvantages in that it can be easily identified and the 'bad cop' may alienate the subject.[4]"
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_cop/bad_cop]


I want to trust that Mr. Matt is being sincere, but as "President Ronald Reagan on several occasions in the context of nuclear disarmament discussions with the Soviet Union" said "trust, but verify."
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust,_but_verify]

Unfortunately, too many of Matt's traditionalist collaborators and even he by playing the bad cop too many times have lost our trust with such things as misrepresenting, attacking and blacklisting members of the BiP movement and the Bishop Gracida movement.

Matt's long time collaborator, for example, Chris Ferrara used misrepresentation:

"Furthermore, the only time I have ever spoken face-to-face with Ann Barnhardt, at least that I can remember, was at Lake Garda, and the entire conversation involved my objection to her claim that the “data set” shows Bergoglio is not the Pope.  We have no competence to assemble “data sets” and declare that the Chair of Peter is vacant."
[
http://stumblingblock.org/?p=15295]


He said that the Barnhardt position was "to declare the Chair of Peter is vacant." The BIP position is the exact opposite of "declar[ing] that the Chair of Peter is vacant."

Next, Matt has at no time condemned or at least distanced himself from the despicable and loathsome Alinsky tactics of One Peter Five publisher Steve Skojec. Canon law expert Br. Alexis Bugnolo explains the tactic and gives an example of which there are numerous (which, also, include attacks on Bishop Gracida):

"The recent attacks on Ann Barnhardt, chief of all, seem to be employing the Rules for Radicals. In Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals, we have, for example, Rule 13, “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”  This means, in regard to persons, to dissuade the public from consideration of the truths professed by an individual by attacking that individual on personal issues."

"Then there is Rule 5, “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon,” which has been honed into a fine art by Steve Skojec, editor and publisher of OnePeterFive.com — apparently a commercial site, because of its *.com, but in reality organized in US Law as a non-profit, where it appears from its tax filings 100% of funds raised, after expenses, go to Skojec or family members.*"

"Here is an example of that, in regard to Ann Barnhardt."
Finally, the editor of the Remnant has not allowed free debate of the issues on his publication or website with real members of the BiP movement and the Bishop Gracida movement. He in his YouTube video mentioned as an example of free debate at the Remnant an article of Robert Siscoe which is a joke. Siscoe is a close collaborator of the disgraceful Skojec who in my opinion, also, misrepresents the issues. (See: Catholic Monitor, "Why are Skojec & Siscoe Afraid of a Conclave Investigation by Cardinals?") [http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2019/03/why-are-siscoe-and-skojec-apparently-so.html?m=1]

If you, Mr. Matt, are sincere and want us to "all stand together" then "stop dogmatiz[ing] opinion" and stop "anathematizing" and stop attacking, misrepresenting and blacklisting the BiP movement and the Bishop Gracida movement.

Here are the Catholic Monitor's demands if you sincerely want me and my readers to "stand together" with you:

Demand number 1:

Condemned or at least distanced yourself in writing from the loathsome Alinsky tactics of One Peter Five publisher Skojec.

Demand number 2:

Have your writer Mr. Ferrara issue a apology and retraction to Miss Barnhardt for mispresenting her position. 

Demand number 3:

Allow Bishop Gracida and Latinist Br. Bugnolo to publish articles in the Remnant and then get which ever expert you want and have a honest debate in your newspaper between them and your experts.

Lastly, Mr. Matt, if you really think we who follow Bishop Gracida, Br. Bugnolo as well as Miss Barnhardt are wrong and headed to hell for being in schism from Francis then out of simple charity for our souls you should honestly counter our dissertations and arguments.

If you really believe we are wrong and headed to hell and refuse to seriously give us real arguments then you apparently have lost the supernatural virtue of charity.

If you really believe what you are saying then for charity's sake you should attempt to save us from hell for being in schism from Francis:

But, all we hear are straw man arguments that don't counter our stated dissertations, name calling propaganda, blacklisting, silence or the noise of you running away as fast as you can from serious reasoned back and forth argumentation.

Just to give fair warning:

We are not going away.

We are growing.

Soon we will be to be too big to ignore.

As even Church Militant's Michael Voris reported we are becoming the majority of faithful Catholics in Rome. The same thing is happening in the United States and if you can't stop us now we will probably grow to be the majority of faithful Catholics in America.

Pray an Our Father now for reparation for the sins committed because of Francis's Amoris Laetitia.

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Stop for a moment of silence, ask Jesus Christ what He wants you to do now and next. In this silence remember God, Father, Son and Holy Ghost - Three Divine Persons yet One God, has an ordered universe where you can know truth and falsehood as well as never forget that He wants you to have eternal happiness with Him as his son or daughter by grace. Make this a practice. By doing this you are doing more good than reading anything here or anywhere else on the Internet.

Francis Notes:

- Doctor of the Church St. Francis de Sales totally confirmed beyond any doubt the possibility of a heretical pope and what must be done by the Church in such a situation:

"[T]he Pope... WHEN he is EXPLICITLY a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church, and the Church MUST either deprive him, or, as some say, declare him deprived, of his Apostolic See."
(The Catholic Controversy, by St. Francis de Sales, Pages 305-306)


Saint Robert Bellarmine, also, said "the Pope heretic is not deposed ipso facto, but must be declared deposed by the Church."
[https://archive.org/stream/SilveiraImplicationsOfNewMissaeAndHereticPopes/Silveira%20Implications%20of%20New%20Missae%20and%20Heretic%20Popes_djvu.txt]

- "If Francis is a Heretic, What should Canonically happen to him?": http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2020/12/if-francis-is-heretic-what-should.html

- "Could Francis be a Antipope even though the Majority of Cardinals claim he is Pope?": http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2019/03/could-francis-be-antipope-even-though.html

- If Francis betrays Benedict XVI & the"Roman Rite Communities" like he betrayed the Chinese Catholics we must respond like St. Athanasius, the Saintly English Bishop Robert Grosseteste & "Eminent Canonists and Theologians" by "Resist[ing]" him: https://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2021/12/if-francis-betrays-benedict-xvi.html 

 -  LifeSiteNews, "Confusion explodes as Pope Francis throws magisterial weight behind communion for adulterers," December 4, 2017:

The AAS guidelines explicitly allows "sexually active adulterous couples facing 'complex circumstances' to 'access the sacraments of Reconciliation and the Eucharist.'"

-  On February 2018, in Rorate Caeli, Catholic theologian Dr. John Lamont:

"The AAS statement... establishes that Pope Francis in Amoris Laetitia has affirmed propositions that are heretical in the strict sense."

- On December 2, 2017, Bishop Rene Gracida:

"Francis' heterodoxy is now official. He has published his letter to the Argentina bishops in Acta Apostlica Series making those letters magisterial documents."

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church by the bishops by the grace of God.

Election Notes:  

- Intel Cryptanalyst-Mathematician on Biden Steal: "212Million Registered Voters & 66.2% Voting,140.344 M Voted...Trump got 74 M, that leaves only 66.344 M for Biden" [http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2020/12/intel-cryptanalyst-mathematician-on.html?m=1]

- Will US be Venezuela?: Ex-CIA Official told Epoch Times "Chávez started to Focus on [Smartmatic] Voting Machines to Ensure Victory as early as 2003": http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2020/12/will-us-be-venezuela-ex-cia-official.html

- Tucker Carlson's Conservatism Inc. Biden Steal Betrayal is explained by “One of the Greatest Columns ever Written" according to Rush: http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/tucker-carlsons-conservatism-inc-biden.html?m=1
 
- A Hour which will Live in Infamy: 10:01pm November 3, 2020:
http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2021/01/a-hour-which-will-live-in-infamy-1001pm.html?m=1
 
What is needed right now to save America from those who would destroy our God given rights is to pray at home or in church and if called to even go to outdoor prayer rallies in every town and city across the United States for God to pour out His grace on our country to save us from those who would use a Reichstag Fire-like incident to destroy our civil liberties. [Is the DC Capitol Incident Comparable to the Nazi Reichstag Fire Incident where the German People Lost their Civil Liberties?: http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/is-dc-capital-incident-comparable-to.html?m=1 and Epoch Times Show Crossroads on Capitol Incident: "Anitfa 'Agent Provocateurs'":
http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/epoch-times-show-crossroads-on-capital.html?m=1

Pray an Our Father now for the grace to know God's Will and to do it.
 
Pray an Our Father now for America.
 
Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Comments

Rick Ayres said…
Bravo! We can “unite the clans” when all the clans can be allowed to express their legitimate opinions. The suspicion that Francis is an antipope is growing, as this article points out, but it is the one opinion which Michael Matt et al. will not tolerate. The Church must decide, but there seems to be massive evidence that this is likely the case. Why this opinion should be so contentious is beyond me. It’s not like there’s never been a precedent!
P. O'Brien said…
"Unite the Clans" is a nice slogan, but that's about it. I have CMRI friends, but I don't receive Communion in their church; they would not attend my Eastern Rite parish either. SSPX and FSSP -- yes, to some extent they are interchangeable, but don't say that too loud. And I doubt that the clergy of either would be very happy with the concept.

And there is this from Peter Kwasniewski: " A future pope will vindicate us, as John Paul II and Benedict XVI did with adherents of tradition decades ago. " How did John Paul II "vindicate the adherents of tradition"? He opened up the old Mass just a crack and that's all.
raphaelheals said…
This is all way over the top like a bunch of school girls sniping at each other. Stop it!! It is doing nothing to help anyone. Speak the truth in love and get over yourselves, attacking your fellow Catholics. Enough! It does not make anyone's heart burn like those on the road to Emmaus. It wearily dries up the soul. That is my clue to stay away.
Anonymous said…
If every Catholic ignored the satanic Bergoglio and all his underlings, instead keeping to the traditions, Bergoglio and his underlings would lose their power and control. I cannot fathom why any Roman Catholic pays one iota of attention to the fat Argentinian in the Vatican.

I certainly don't; and I am a Priest who prays the Latin rite every single day.
Anonymous said…
I dropped my Remnant subscription and Catholic Family News last yr. Got tired of Michael Matt's disingenuous hand wringing over "Pope" (HIS designation, not mine) Bergoglio's many heresies, idolatries, blasphemies, and marxism, and increasing emphasis on pushing economic distributism. I miss John Vennari at CFN. Ann Barnhardt and Dr Mazza are right, and I don't care about Ferrara's "credentials".
Debbie said…
I stopped reading/subscribing to Remnant years ago. Per Ann Barnhardt, they, Matt and Ferrara, believe BiP but won't say so publicly. Ferrara admitted this to Ann to her face. Seeing as he lied about Barnhardt's BiP position being sedevacantist (he's obviously an intelligent man so he knows BiP is not sede at all).....then I believe what Ann says he said. For me, there's no uniting with liars. Man up, admit your lies and then we can "unite".
Unknown said…
@rafaelheals,
The TRUTH can hurt.
But the TRUTH makes you free.

All of them who are not honestly searching the truth, are willingly desposing themselves more and more to the evil, who is, as we know, the father of all lies.

So be careful my friend.
Which means, you should do your best effort to FIND THE TRUTH!

Blessed Christmas to you!

Ivan

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