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Are Francis Trads like 1P5 Sammons in SCHISM from ALL Valid Popes in History "to embrace a Moral Relativism under the Guise of a False 'Unity'"?

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I dropped my Remnant subscription and Catholic Family News last yr. Got tired of Michael Matt's disingenuous hand wringing over "Pope" (HIS designation, not mine) Bergoglio's many heresies, idolatries, blasphemies, and marxism, and increasing emphasis on pushing economic distributism. I miss John Vennari at CFN. Ann Barnhardt and Dr Mazza are right, and I don't care about Ferrara's "credentials".- The Catholic Monitor comment section

What is a Francis Traditionalist (Trad)?

A Francis Trad is someone like One Peter Five Eric Sammons and other collaborators of his who do "handwringing" about Francis's "many heresies, idolatries, blasphemies, and marxism," but do nothing and call those Catholics like Bishop Rene Gracida and others who are doing something "schismatics." [See: Are Sammons' 1P5 and Lewis' Where Peter Is going to Merge and become Where One Peter Five Is?]

Here is Bishops Gracida's answer to them:

Bishop Gracida: "ONE CAN SAY THAT [MASS DESTROYER] FRANCIS IS A HERETIC UNTIL ONE DIES BUT IT CHANGES NOTHING. WHAT IS NEEDED IS ACTION... WE MUST PRESSURE THE CARDINALS [& BISHOPS] TO ACT" [https://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2021/12/bishop-gracida-one-can-say-that-mass.html]

Francis Trads appear to think that it is an infallible dogma that Francis is a valid pope no matter what the evidence shows and moreover they must stay in communion with him even when by his "authentic Magisterium" authority he teaches Communion for adulterers without committing obstinate heresy.

They must never forget that they are in union with Francis and believe that he cannot be corrected for heresy nor can he as Doctor of the Church St. Francis de Sales proclaimed be "deprived... of his Apostolic See" for being "explicitly a heretic":

"The Pope... when he is explicitly a heretic... the Church must either deprive him or as some say declare him deprived of his Apostlic See."
(The Catholic Controversy by St. Francis de Sales, Pages 305-306)

Today, the Les Femmes website put it well on the direction the Francis Trads want to take us:

Logically, either Pope Francis is wrong or Pope Benedict is wrong... Holy Tradition and past documents by popes like Pius V's Quo Primum (1570), an Apostolic Constitution promulgating the Tridentine Liturgy, make it clear that what is happening today is an aberration and a violent break from the past. [Side note: Quo Primum is a brief, totally transparent document unlike the wordy and endless blather put out by Pope Francis about the environment and ecumenism. READ THE APOSTOLIC CONSTITUTION and keep in mind that an Apostolic Constitution is the most authoritative type of Vatican document! (source)] 

To accept the thought of Pope Francis requires one to throw out two millennia of Church teaching in order to embrace a moral relativism under the guise of a false "unity." [https://lesfemmes-thetruth.blogspot.com/2021/12/got-logic-part-1-two-things-that-are.html]

Francis's means to "throw out two millennia of Church teaching" is praxis theology.

Internationally renowned theologian Dr. Tracey Rowland said Francis's "decision - making process" outlined in Evangelii Gaudium is "the tendency to give priority to praxis over theory
[the infallible doctrines of the Catholic Church]."

She states that chapter eight of Amoris Laetitia "might be described as the praxis chapter rather than a theory chapter." Theory meaning Catholic doctrine.

The renowned theologian asks:

How can footnote 351 of Amoris Laetitia "be consistent with paragraph eighty-four of John Paul II's Apostolic Exhortation Familiaris consortio and paragraph twenty-nine of Benedict XVI's Apostolic Exhortation Sacramentum Caritatis? A pastoral crisis may arise if the lay faithful and their priests have to choose between... two Popes (John Paul II and Benedict XVI) on one side, and a third Pope (Pope Francis) on the other." ("Catholic Theology," Page 192, 198, 199) [See:
https://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2019/11/is-francis-nihilistic-total-relativist.html

The choice appears to be between the infallible doctrines of the Catholic Church or Francis's praxis theology.

However, all the Francis Traditionalists who the renowned Vatican expert Marco Tosatti's website describes as "the traditionalist-sedevacantists who do not want to understand nor even discuss the investigation of ... Bergoglio [Francis]" as they are all screaming at the top of their lungs that Francis is making "illegal laws" and may be a heretic for his most recent attack on the Traditional Latin Mass, but do nothing and call those Catholics like Bishop Gracida as well others who are doing something "schismatics." .

On December 15, in the Tosatti website, in the post "La Sede Impedita, Benedetto XVI, Bertone e Gänswein. Le Dimissioni" (which was translated by From Rome), he seemed to be a bit hard on the Francis Trads calling them "traditionalist-sedevacantists" because I assume they make a lot of noise, but don't act to solve the problems in the Church:

Now, the fact is that if we go to the next conclave with 80 non-cardinals appointed by the antipope, another antipope will be elected. Thus, if we continue to pay attention, on the one hand, to the mainstream that has sold out in block to Bergoglianism, and, on the other hand, to the traditionalist-sedevacantists who do not want to understand nor even discuss the investigation of Plan B and legitimize Bergoglio with canonical follies and, in addition, throw mud on the hated Ratzinger, then before resolving the matter we will have to endure another round of jousting with an antipope Tagle, or Zuppi, or Maradiaga, who will have the name John XXIV...

... The upper levels of the clergy, even if they have understood this, have been totally immobilized due to the possible retaliation of the antipope. The only ones who are able to do anything are journalists, but 98% of these are completely sold out to Bergoglianism, and the remaining 2% is held hostage by the anti-Ratzingerian traditionalists, and both categories together prevent there being any debate on this matter. [https://www.fromrome.info/2021/12/16/tosatti-airs-cioncis-impeded-see/] 

With the possibility of a new conclave coming soon, in what way do the Francis Trads not act to solve the problem of Francis.

Again, Bishop Gracida said: 

"ONE CAN SAY THAT FRANCIS THE MERCIFUL IS A HERETIC UNTIL ONE DIES BUT IT CHANGES NOTHING. WHAT IS NEEDED IS ACTION... WE MUST PRESSURE THE CARDINALS [& BISHOPS] TO ACT."

Francis is not orthodox so there are only two things he could be:

1. A validly elected pope who is a material heretic until cardinals correct him and then canonically proclaim he is a formal heretic if he doesn't recant thus deposing him (See: "Unambiguously Pope Francis Materially Professes Death Penalty Heresy: Cd. Burke: 'If a Pope would Formally Profess Heresy he would Cease, by that Act, to be the Pope'": http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2018/08/unambiguously-pope-francis-materially.html?m=1) or

2. an invalidly elected antipope who is a heretic.

The point is whether you think using all the information available 1. is the objective truth or 2. is the objective truth you must act.

You must as Bishop Garcida says put: "pressure on the cardinals [and bishops] to act" whichever you think.

Remember when Francis and his Trad collaborators cry "SCHISM" at us it means they are AFRAID!

What are they afraid of?

They are AFRAID that it will finally get through the cowardly and apparently not too bright heads of the few faithful bishops and cardinals that:

Zero valid popes in the history of the Catholic Church have committed the sacrilege of instituting as the Vatican's official teaching that unrepentant adulterous couples can profane the Holy of Holy Jesus Christ who is true God by having unrepentant sinners receive Him in the Most Holy Eucharist.

Nor have any of ALL the valid popes in history even come close to ambiguously teaching such a blasphemy which could be taken in either a orthodox or heretical way (for all the conservative and traditionalist Francis apologists).

Next to this sacrilege against the Most Holy Eucharist, the attempted proposed Amazonian Synod heresy of women's ordination was a minor sacrilege.

Maybe these cowardly and apparently not too bright bishops and cardinals might, finally, realize:

Francis is in SCHISM from ALL valid popes in the history of the Catholic Church.

Are Francis Trads like 1P5 Sammons in SCHISM from ALL valid popes in history "to embrace a moral relativism under the guise of a false 'unity'"?

Or, maybe they will, finally, join Bishop Gracida and call for an investigation on if the Francis conclave was invalid which even Cardinal Raymond Burke says is a valid possibly.

Or, maybe because it is their infallible belief that there can never be a invalid pope or antipope then they will do what Doctor of the Church St. Francis de Sales said:

"The Pope... when he is explicitly a heretic... the Church must either deprive him or as some say declare him deprived of his Apostolic See."
(The Catholic Controversy by St. Francis de Sales, Pages 305-306) 

Read:

If Francis is a Heretic, What should Canonically happen to him?

Pray an Our Father now for reparation for the sins committed because of Francis's Amoris Laetitia.

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Stop for a moment of silence, ask Jesus Christ what He wants you to do now and next. In this silence remember God, Father, Son and Holy Ghost - Three Divine Persons yet One God, has an ordered universe where you can know truth and falsehood as well as never forget that He wants you to have eternal happiness with Him as his son or daughter by grace. Make this a practice. By doing this you are doing more good than reading anything here or anywhere else on the Internet.

Francis Notes:

- Doctor of the Church St. Francis de Sales totally confirmed beyond any doubt the possibility of a heretical pope and what must be done by the Church in such a situation:

"[T]he Pope... WHEN he is EXPLICITLY a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church, and the Church MUST either deprive him, or, as some say, declare him deprived, of his Apostolic See."
(The Catholic Controversy, by St. Francis de Sales, Pages 305-306)


Saint Robert Bellarmine, also, said "the Pope heretic is not deposed ipso facto, but must be declared deposed by the Church."
[https://archive.org/stream/SilveiraImplicationsOfNewMissaeAndHereticPopes/Silveira%20Implications%20of%20New%20Missae%20and%20Heretic%20Popes_djvu.txt]

- "If Francis is a Heretic, What should Canonically happen to him?": http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2020/12/if-francis-is-heretic-what-should.html

- "Could Francis be a Antipope even though the Majority of Cardinals claim he is Pope?": http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2019/03/could-francis-be-antipope-even-though.html

- If Francis betrays Benedict XVI & the"Roman Rite Communities" like he betrayed the Chinese Catholics we must respond like St. Athanasius, the Saintly English Bishop Robert Grosseteste & "Eminent Canonists and Theologians" by "Resist[ing]" him: https://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2021/12/if-francis-betrays-benedict-xvi.html 

 -  LifeSiteNews, "Confusion explodes as Pope Francis throws magisterial weight behind communion for adulterers," December 4, 2017:

The AAS guidelines explicitly allows "sexually active adulterous couples facing 'complex circumstances' to 'access the sacraments of Reconciliation and the Eucharist.'"

-  On February 2018, in Rorate Caeli, Catholic theologian Dr. John Lamont:

"The AAS statement... establishes that Pope Francis in Amoris Laetitia has affirmed propositions that are heretical in the strict sense."

- On December 2, 2017, Bishop Rene Gracida:

"Francis' heterodoxy is now official. He has published his letter to the Argentina bishops in Acta Apostlica Series making those letters magisterial documents."

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church by the bishops by the grace of God.

Election Notes:  

- Intel Cryptanalyst-Mathematician on Biden Steal: "212Million Registered Voters & 66.2% Voting,140.344 M Voted...Trump got 74 M, that leaves only 66.344 M for Biden" [http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2020/12/intel-cryptanalyst-mathematician-on.html?m=1]

- Will US be Venezuela?: Ex-CIA Official told Epoch Times "Chávez started to Focus on [Smartmatic] Voting Machines to Ensure Victory as early as 2003": http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2020/12/will-us-be-venezuela-ex-cia-official.html

- Tucker Carlson's Conservatism Inc. Biden Steal Betrayal is explained by “One of the Greatest Columns ever Written" according to Rush: http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/tucker-carlsons-conservatism-inc-biden.html?m=1
 
- A Hour which will Live in Infamy: 10:01pm November 3, 2020:
http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2021/01/a-hour-which-will-live-in-infamy-1001pm.html?m=1
 
What is needed right now to save America from those who would destroy our God given rights is to pray at home or in church and if called to even go to outdoor prayer rallies in every town and city across the United States for God to pour out His grace on our country to save us from those who would use a Reichstag Fire-like incident to destroy our civil liberties. [Is the DC Capitol Incident Comparable to the Nazi Reichstag Fire Incident where the German People Lost their Civil Liberties?: http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/is-dc-capital-incident-comparable-to.html?m=1 and Epoch Times Show Crossroads on Capitol Incident: "Anitfa 'Agent Provocateurs'":
http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/epoch-times-show-crossroads-on-capital.html?m=1

Pray an Our Father now for the grace to know God's Will and to do it.
 
Pray an Our Father now for America.
 
Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

 

 

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