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Let's play the game of "Sammons Says." Because a Catholic is called to be in union with the pope, that means Bergoglio is the pope in the first place. Let's apply Eric's logic elsewhere and find out.

Simon [Sammons] Says

So, let's play the game of "Sammons Says," shall we?


--Because a Catholic is called to be in union with the pope, that means Bergoglio is the pope in the first place. Does this make sense? Let's apply Eric's logic elsewhere and find out.  Because a Catholic spouse may licitly have relations with his or her spouse, a divorced-and-"remarried"--without an annulment-- Catholic may licitly have relations with the individual who, "to all appearances"--Eric's words; not mine--is that "second spouse."  As long as the majority of the couple's family and  friends "universally accept" them as man and wife, it makes them man and wife, canon law notwithstanding.  The fact that "acceptance" is offered by the numerous malformed, and non-acceptance by the few conscientiously well-formed, is beside the point.  Catholic morality is a matter of gaining the vote of the majority; nothing more. And this is coming from a man who purports to have reservations about the methodology and ecclesiology of the rigged "Synod on Synodality"?  Sammons reasons exactly the same way.  It is not only the possible conclusions to be reached by this bizarre assembly, but also its way of reaching them, that must in principle be opposed.

--Determining whether or not Bergoglio is the pope is "above (a layman's) pay grade."
 But, why?  There are obtainable facts, legible and intelligible ecclesial criteria, and the reflections of saints and orthodox theologians, not to mention instructive historical situations, readily applicable to the present situation, unprecedented in some respects though it may be.  Playing the Obama Card--for have people already forgotten it was he who gave currency to an excuse torn straight from the transcripts of the Nuremburg Trials?--is telling with respect to the Bergoglio Question, because the people "playing" it would never do the same in other cases.  The purveyors of synodality imply, for instance, that the James Martin sin isn't a sin at all.  Laymen in the Catholic Church do not bear hierarchical responsibility for formal doctrinal or moral determinations, so isn't Eric bound by the laws of logical consistency to declare himself unfit to opine on this matter, either?  "Well, that is different," some might say.  "After all, that teaching is already established."  So were the norms of UD Gregis.  To hold that we don't know if those norms have been violated in the case of the 2013 conclave would be one thing; a layman in that kind of doubt would be morally bound to declare it, to withhold from the suspected antipope the submission due to an authentic one, and to demand from the hierarchy a just and canonical clarification.  But that is not what Eric and his ilk mean by "above my pay grade" at all. What they mean is that they "don't know" what makes for a legitimate successor of Peter in the first place.  But the only possible reason they "don't know" is that they don't want to know. Just like the synodalists, they acknowledge the aspects of Catholicism which don't happen to offend their private sensibilities or to demand sacrificial adjustments in conduct and outlook, while styling themselves exempt from any which do.  Participants in this round of "Sammons Says" qualify as conservative "cafeteria Catholics" just as the synodalists are "liberal" ones, but it all boils down to "cafeteria Catholicism" in the end.

Note: The above piece is from a Catholic Monitor contributor. 

Pray an Our Father now for reparation for the sins committed because of Francis’s Amoris Laetitia.

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Stop for a moment of silence, ask Jesus Christ what He wants you to do now and next. In this silence remember God, Father, Son and Holy Ghost – Three Divine Persons yet One God, has an ordered universe where you can know truth and falsehood as well as never forget that He wants you to have eternal happiness with Him as his son or daughter by grace. Make this a practice. By doing this you are doing more good than reading anything here or anywhere else on the Internet.

Francis Notes:

– Doctor of the Church St. Francis de Sales totally confirmed beyond any doubt the possibility of a heretical pope and what must be done by the Church in such a situation:

“[T]he Pope… WHEN he is EXPLICITLY a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church, and the Church MUST either deprive him, or, as some say, declare him deprived, of his Apostolic See.”
(The Catholic Controversy, by St. Francis de Sales, Pages 305-306)

Saint Robert Bellarmine, also, said “the Pope heretic is not deposed ipso facto, but must be declared deposed by the Church.”
[https://archive.org/stream/SilveiraImplicationsOfNewMissaeAndHereticPopes/Silveira%20Implications%20of%20New%20Missae%20and%20Heretic%20Popes_djvu.txt]

– “If Francis is a Heretic, What should Canonically happen to him?”: http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2020/12/if-francis-is-heretic-what-should.html

– “Could Francis be a Antipope even though the Majority of Cardinals claim he is Pope?”: http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2019/03/could-francis-be-antipope-even-though.html

– If Francis betrays Benedict XVI & the”Roman Rite Communities” like he betrayed the Chinese Catholics we must respond like St. Athanasius, the Saintly English Bishop Robert Grosseteste & “Eminent Canonists and Theologians” by “Resist[ing]” him: https://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2021/12/if-francis-betrays-benedict-xvi.html 

 –  LifeSiteNews, “Confusion explodes as Pope Francis throws magisterial weight behind communion for adulterers,” December 4, 2017:

The AAS guidelines explicitly allows “sexually active adulterous couples facing ‘complex circumstances’ to ‘access the sacraments of Reconciliation and the Eucharist.'”

–  On February 2018, in Rorate Caeli, Catholic theologian Dr. John Lamont:

“The AAS statement… establishes that Pope Francis in Amoris Laetitia has affirmed propositions that are heretical in the strict sense.”

– On December 2, 2017, Bishop Rene Gracida:

“Francis’ heterodoxy is now official. He has published his letter to the Argentina bishops in Acta Apostlica Series making those letters magisterial documents.”

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church by the bishops by the grace of God.

Election Notes: 

– Intel Cryptanalyst-Mathematician on Biden Steal: “212Million Registered Voters & 66.2% Voting,140.344 M Voted…Trump got 74 M, that leaves only 66.344 M for Biden” [http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2020/12/intel-cryptanalyst-mathematician-on.html?m=1]

– Will US be Venezuela?: Ex-CIA Official told Epoch Times “Chávez started to Focus on [Smartmatic] Voting Machines to Ensure Victory as early as 2003”: http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2020/12/will-us-be-venezuela-ex-cia-official.html

– Tucker Carlson’s Conservatism Inc. Biden Steal Betrayal is explained by “One of the Greatest Columns ever Written” according to Rush: http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/tucker-carlsons-conservatism-inc-biden.html?m=1

– A Hour which will Live in Infamy: 10:01pm November 3, 2020:
http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2021/01/a-hour-which-will-live-in-infamy-1001pm.html?m=1

What is needed right now to save America from those who would destroy our God given rights is to pray at home or in church and if called to even go to outdoor prayer rallies in every town and city across the United States for God to pour out His grace on our country to save us from those who would use a Reichstag Fire-like incident to destroy our civil liberties. [Is the DC Capitol Incident Comparable to the Nazi Reichstag Fire Incident where the German People Lost their Civil Liberties?http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/is-dc-capital-incident-comparable-to.html?m=1 and Epoch Times Show Crossroads on Capitol Incident: “Anitfa ‘Agent Provocateurs‘”:
http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/epoch-times-show-crossroads-on-capital.html?m=1

Pray an Our Father now for the grace to know God’s Will and to do it.

Pray an Our Father now for America.

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Comments

Anonymous said…
Modernists (open enemies of the Church, who strive to replace God himself with man),
Neocons (so-called moderates or neither here nor here),
Quasi-traditionalists (who do not live so much or very little according to the tradition of the Holy Mother Church, but primarily look at their personal (worldly) benefit),

According to Sammons (to which above category does he actually belong?), the reasoning is therefore:
--Determining whether or not Bergoglio is the pope is "above (a layman's) pay grade. -- which is the greatest stupidity ever imagined, and here's why.
Because it simultaneously means this:
--Determining who is the pope, but also who is the pope not, is "above (a layman's) pay grade".
And that sounds not Catholic at all to me. Even worse...

For example: Is "above my pay grade" (and I would take here a "sensus fidei" terminology), to determine that let's say, Giuseppe Sarto, as a man in good Catholic standing, indeed, was a Pope of the Catholic Church, with a name Pius X, or is this hidden from me because I am a layman, and so, according to Sammons, "above my pay grade"?
Or an even more banal example: Is my sensus fidei, i.e. sensus Catholicus correct and true when I determine that Ahmed the Mohammedan is not the Pope of the Catholic Church?

Here I'll mention the story "The king is without a suit, i.e. the king is naked" again, which means even when almost everybody, because of their own any reason whatever that might be, continues to claim that the king is nicely dressed, those with eyes still can, should, and must in the name of the truth, assert and say that the king is actually- naked!

Those people "with eyes" are actually the people with eyes of faith, people with sensus fidei, i.e. sensus Catholicus, which is given from above to see and distinguish good from evil, truth from lies, light from darkness.

And Sammons and everyone else suchlike would have to ask themselves what actually happened to their sensus fidei. If and when, their own sensus, of all those people, for any reason, leaves fidei and becomes nugae, it would be better for them to seriously work on it as soon as possible.

I would also like to advise such people to read a lot more and write a lot less.

Ivan
Anonymous said…
People who make their living by being professional Catholics certainly do not seem to think they'll have to explain to God why they are misleading the Church by spreading their personal opinions as Church teaching.
Anonymous said…
The Office of the Munus is forever, and thus The Gift Of Infallibility remains forever for a validly elected Pope, who has no authority to renounce The Gift Of The Holy Ghost, or share the Papacy. “The Form and Matter” of The Papacy, cannot be separated without changing, in essence, the essence of the Papacy.

What this error has illuminated is that when you witness bishop v. Bishop, cardinal v.Cardinal, and pope v.every other validly elected Pope, in regards to The Deposit Of Faith, and all are allowed to remain physically in The One Body Of Christ, there can be no doubt that a counterfeit church of apostates is attempting to subsist within Christ’s One, Holy, Catholic, And Apostolic Church, outside of which, there is no Salvation, due to The Unity Of The Holy Ghost (Filioque ).

“It is not possible to have Sacramental Communion without Ecclesial Communion”, due to The Unity Of The Holy Ghost (Filioque), for it Is “ Through Christ, With Christ And In Christ, In The Unity Of The Holy Ghost, (Filioque), That Holy Mother Church, outside of which there is no Salvation, due to The Unity Of The Holy Ghost, (Filioque), exists.

“For the Holy Spirit was not promised to the successors of Peter that by His revelation they might make known new doctrine, but that by His assistance they might inviolably keep and faithfully expound the Revelation, the Deposit of Faith, delivered through the Apostles. "

We can know through Faith and Reason that Jorge Bergoglio’s apostasy was external and made public and notorious, when as a cardinal, he stated in his book, On Heaven and Earth, in regards to same-sex sexual relationships, and thus same-sex sexual acts, prior to his election as pope, on page 117, denying The Unity Of The Holy Ghost (Filioque), and demonstrating that he does not hold, keep, or teach The Catholic Faith, as he was not in communion with Christ and His Church prior to his election to the Papacy, he continues to act accordingly:
“If there is a union of a private nature, there is neither a third party, nor is society affected. Now, if the union is given the category of marriage, there could be children affected. Every person needs a male father and a female mother that can help shape their identity.”- Jorge Bergoglio, denying The Sanctity of the marital act within The Sacrament of Holy Matrimony, and the fact that God, The Most Holy And Undivided Blessed Trinity, Through The Unity Of The Holy Ghost (Filioque), Is The Author Of Love, Of Life, And Of Marriage, while denying sin done in private is sin.

How then, can the election of a man, who was not in communion with Christ and every other previously validly elected Pope, and is thus anti Pope and anti Filioque, possibly be valid?

Also see CCC II. THE DEFINITION OF SIN
John said…
Sammons says that he doesn’t believe that he can go against the determination of bishops who believe that Francis is pope. Ok, but how is it that he is fine with following bishops who violate the provisions of the Profession of Faith that they swore upon taking office? All clergy make a profession that includes that they will give “religious submission of will and intellect” to all teachings of the Roman Pontiff and “college of bishops (a very modern concept),” even when those teachings are not intended to be definitive. That means that even if you may disagree, you keep quiet about it, and you certainly don’t publish dubia and prayers for the thwarting of the “pope’s” agenda. If these men (Schneider, Burke, Müller et al.) really believe that Bergoglio is pope, then they are being sinfully disobedient with their public disagreements. The fact that Bergoglio errs practically every time he opens his mouth or puts pen to paper ought to lead more people to investigate if he really is who he claims to be. I certainly don’t want to follow disobedient bishops, nor heretics.

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