The American Spectator reported that "The Deep Church [is] Against Viganò... They find him guilty of being Catholic":
In Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò’s recent letter
to Donald Trump, he writes, “just as there is a deep state, there is
also a deep church that betrays its duties and forswears its proper
commitments before God.”
Naturally, the deep church resented the letter. But it particularly
didn’t like that Trump tweeted about it, saying, “So honored by
Archbishop Viganò’s letter to me. I hope everyone, religious or not,
reads it!”
An imagined deep church? How dare Viganò notice that an entrenched bureaucracy of clerics opposed to Catholic teaching exists in the Church.
Members of the deep church quickly moved into action, pooh-poohing
the significance of Viganò and seeking to discredit him. The vanguard of
the deep church, the Jesuits, led the charge. They used their magazine,
America, to remind people that the former papal nuncio to the
U.S. — brace yourselves — adheres to Catholic teaching on marriage and
other matters. This, in their estimation, makes him “outside the
mainstream” of “global Catholicism.”
Michael O’Laughlin of America writes,
“The archbishop’s tenure in the United States was largely
uncontroversial, but a new book by the Vatican reporter Christopher Lamb
about Pope Francis, The Outsider, claims that during his time
in Washington, Archbishop Viganò ‘aligned himself with culture warriors
and anti-Francis supporters.’ ”
[https://spectator.org/the-deep-church-against-vigano/]
The Remnant revealed America Magazine might be a "globalist establishment" propaganda operation:
" [The] globalist establishment... Murray, SJ, push[ed] liberalism at
the Second Vatican Council with documents such as Dignitatis Humanae as
well as a slew of publications... One of the major outlets through
which... Murray pushed his Americanism [heresy] was... America [now
edited by Francis appointed consultor to the Vatican's Secretariat for
Communications Fr. James Martin]."
(The Remnant, John Podesta's Catholic Spring Part IV: America Magazine
LeftCat Kitty Litter or Deep State Propaganda?". February 29, 2019)
[https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/4029-rules-for-radicals-when-paul-vi-met-saul-alinsky]
Reportedly, America Magazine writer Fr. John
Courtney Murray was a CIA operative:
"Murray and his crowd of CIA operatives and TIME Magazine won the day,
helping American Catholics buy into the proposition of the separation of
Church and State and calling it 'religious liberty.'"
(Church Militant, "The Vortex - The CIA's Priest," November 11, 2015) [https://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/vort-2015-11-11]
Moreover, former FBI consultant and journalist Paul Williams, PhD, in his 2015 book on the CIA and the Vatican wrote of "concerns
that the CIA manipulated the [papal] election" of Francis:
"On March 13, 2013, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio ascended to the
throne of St. Peter as Pope Francis I. The nagging questions about his
background may never receive a satisfactory answer. Nor will concerns
that the CIA manipulated the [papal] election as it had in the past with
Juan Peron. Argentine journalists and scholars with insight into the
Agency's [the CIA's] activities in their country have labeled Bergoglio
'Washington's Pope.'"
(Operation Gladio: The Unholy Alliance between The Vatican, The CIA and The Mafia, Page 126)
The former FBI consultant apparently is claiming that his Argentine
sources with "insight" into the American Deep State in their country are
labeling:
Francis as the CIA's Pope.
If this is true then the Deep State picked the right man
because Francis appears to have as much enmity and hostility for
President Donald Trump and his conservative policies as they do.
Furthermore, it seems apparent that the corporate media, such The New York Times, Reuter
and others, are attempting to ruin Archbishop Vigano who is
a whistleblower against the Francis Vatican homosexual network and
sex abuse cover-ups.
People are starting to wake up to the fact that the corporate media is controlled by the Deep State.
The United Kingdom magazine Christian Order in its latest exposé on the "complex corporate/financial/political" Deep State said:
"Occasionally, media scrutiny and/or public prosecution of global
criminal scams... provide a glimpse like the Bank of Credit and Commerce
International during the 1970s/80s and currently the Clinton
Foundation... the first-tier all hold so much dirt on each other that
mutual protection and continuing is assured."
"As for whistle-blowers, the lower-level variety are either bought off,
blackmailed, ruined, or murdered with impunity. Exposure and defiance at
the highest levels by uncontrollable presidential forces like JFK,
Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, on the other hand, sometimes leads to
assassination (JFK) but more usually is handled by a controlled press."
"President Putin's complaint at the recent Helsinki summit of a massive
swindle involving the transfer of $400 million... to Hillary Clinton's
election campaign, for example, was either totally ignored, or mentioned
but not pursued... [as was] Putin's further pointed reference to the
transnational conniving of Hillary's nefarious backer, George
Soros."(Christian Order, "Deep State Armageddon," August/September 2018)
Everyone who has read or seen on YouTube internationally respected
investigator and attorney Elizabeth Yore's detailed research knows
Francis's Vatican is in bed or in alliance with the Deep State and
Soros. Yore revealed:
"George Soros operatives are embedded in the Vatican. They have drafted
Vatican documents that set up the Soros agenda which mirrors the Francis
agenda." (YouTube, "An Unholy Alliance: the UN, Soros, and the Francis
Papacy," February 21, 2017)
The Christian Order article, moreover, shows that the Soros/Clinton Deep
State doesn't just have the "controlled press" working for them, but
the intelligence agencies:
"As George Neumayr commented... 'Obama via Brennan, did the equivalent
for Hillary'... namely, by turning CIA HQ at Langley, Virginia, into the
Clinton War Room..."
"... For [Trump] his tenure is a providential opportunity to face down
the Washington vermin; to thwart their occult designs. So let us pray
that he [Trump] traps and eradicates them before they trap and eradicate
him - or it's criminal game, globalist set, and godless match to the
dirty rats."
Comments
According to your theory, was Archbishop Vigano working for the Obama deep state when he was working for Pope Benedict XVI?
According to the your theory, was Pope Benedict also working for the deep state?
By not answering my questions, you conceded the argument.
But I will answer yours.
As to the first question, the answers to my questions give indications not proofs.
As to the second question, you presuppose that a human being is like an atomic particle which only operates under one law and never changes. Seeing that that is your presupposition, I ask why do you think Vigano is like an electron in Trumps atomic orbit?
As to your third question, it is based on several fallacies, first, that all whom a Pope nominates, are his allies. You know well that that is not true, so why employ that principle to slur mud at the Pope. So on that basis I have to ask you,Why do you feel impelled to attack the Holy Father, so as to defend Trump and Vigano?
I think your response shows an inability to reply to my questions with rational answers. Break free from group think, face reality, admit the truth, and then act as a Catholic. That is my advice to all, on every topic.
Also, thank you for conceding the argument.
Do you read your own blog, you can find my answers there.
If all a pope appoints are not his allies, why don't we extend the same reasoning to a president?
If we argue that Trump didn't 'clean it(deep state) out',why don't we extend the same blame to the Church?
It seems to me that some tumours are not easily operable.
It has taken almost four years to get honest judges and other officials into place. Also, one of Trump's main strategies is to permit evildoers to continue to commit crimes--while being surveilled. Trump also knows that many more of the general public need to wake up before large numbers of "respectable" people (Bushes, Clintons, Soetoros) are arrested.
"If Trump is against the Covid hoax and for Making America Great Again, why did he destroy the US economy with a lockdown."
Trump respects our federalist system. Trump has shut down NOTHING, except travel to and from China and Western Europe. The shutting down of the American economy is 100% the work of the governors and mayors. Again, millions of people have been awakened by the vicious behavior of their Marxist governors and mayors, in contrast to patriotic governors and mayors. The general population almost universally understand that Andrew Cuomo (Satanist-NY) murdered about 6,000 people in New York nursing homes. Three other Satanist governors did the same thing to their people.
"If Trump is against Gates, why did he move 1.8 billion from WHO to Gavi?"
Define "against Gates." Is Trump taking Gates's advice? Is Trump treating Gates like a leper? Something in between? One thing is definitely happening: Word is spreading on social media that Gates is a "friend of Jeffrey" and a pedo. I think it's reasonable to expect that Gates will not be riding very high by 2025.
Thank you for the charity and maturity to respond to my questions.
As regards your first response, you seem to be saying that Trump lacks so much fortitude that he intentionally allows crooks to prey on America and Americans, until he can build enough political support to act against them without losing points in a poll, even though he has the authority act against them. Is that your argument?
As regards your second response, I think you fail to remember his Guidelines for shutting down a whole host of things. Yes, that is not a command, but the counsel of a president is what unleashed the lockdown. So he is morally responsible 100%
As regards your third response, you dogged that ball cleverly, but, you know, a sophistic argument is visible to all for what it is.
So far the responses in these comments demonstrate that you are all very shocked by the reality and are still in denial.
I am praying for you so that you really start supporting a Make American Great Again Policy, and not just a Vote Me In Again because I am a great MAGA actor.
What you refer to as "group think" is far more insidious and debilitating than your term denotes. The American people and their vassals have been subjected to a mind-destroying campaign of social control that only the grace of God can free them from:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180330235044/http://www.culturewars.com:80/2011/Wemhoff.html
Can you expand on why Br. Bugnolo and you agreed with E. Michael Jones' Culture Wars magazine pro-Islamic and anti-Traditional Latin Mass theories?
Note: Please put the Church and America in the following Prayer of Command intention against the "satanic forces" unleashed against it:
Prayer of Command of Exorcist Fr. Chad Ripperger:
If Trump is against the deep state, why did he not clean it out?
If Trump is against the Covid hoax and for Making America Great Again, why did he destroy the US economy with a lockdown_
If Trump is against Gates, why did he move 1.8 billion from WHO to Gavi?
And finally, if Trump did do all these things, why do you think his retweet of Vigano's letter means that both of them are not working for the deep state?
Try to be rational in your responses, and not lash out. Because to lash out is a sign you suffer from group think.