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Did Voris and Niles Commit "One of the Sins of Detraction" against SSPX & Lose "their Credibility"?

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Mary Ann Kreitzer, the President of the Les Femmes-The Truth website, gave the Catholic Monitor permission to repost her incisive piece titled "We All Have a Right to Our Good Name":

Sins against the eighth commandment are legion. Slander and detraction are serious issues. Which brings me to Church Militant (CM) and its reporting on the SSPX -- again. 

Michael Voris recently reviled the SSPX as a "cult" on a CM Twitter thread implying that  anyone who attends or defends the SSPX is a "cult" member.  He used two examples to support his statement -- Let me repeat that. He mentioned TWO!!! comments left on the Twitter feed and went on to cast aspersions on every single member of the SSPX. But not only the SSPX, the entire Latin Mass community. He implied, based on TWO comments, that everyone who attends the Latin Mass is self-righteous and thinks they are "superior and Holy." And of course, many of CM's followers piled on. Omigosh, those TLM supporters are evil and "spiritually diseased."

Here's what Voris tweeted:

These SSPX cult members use filthy sexist (C*nt) and racist (Chink) terms in attacking people - and then go to LATIN Mass on Sunday thinking they are superior and Holy. Please. Talk about a reason for Francis to blow up their idol of the Latin Mass. They are spiritually diseased.

Note first of all that Voris labels the SSPX a "cult." The implication is that all the thousands who belong to or defend the SSPX are like the followers of Jim Jones, cult members. 

Wow! 

Then he goes on to give TWO examples of nasty tweets, one using a vulgar term for Christine Niles, saying the comments are a "reason" for Francis to deep six the Latin Mass (TLM). Since the SSPX says the same Latin Mass as the FSSP and the Canons Regular of numerous orders, that was a pretty inflammatory statement. And really -- TWO! comments out of an estimated 25,000 who attend the SSPX chapels, not to mention another 75,000 who attend other TLM parishes! 

I have two trolls who visit my blog frequently, one almost daily, to leave vile comments (which I don't post). One is an NO  Catholic who says she used to be a traditionalist. Her nasty comments don't make me assume all NO Catholics are like her. Nor do I label every diocesan priest as a sex abuser because of the statistically small number of priests who are. I attend the NO almost every weekday and most of the priests who say those Masses seem to be seriously committed to doing God's will and bringing others to Christ. I'm grateful for them and would never lump them in with the abusers.

Church Militant should be embarrassed and take down the Twitter thread immediately. I thank Mundabor for his post that pointed me there since I bolted from Twitter months ago. Everything he said about the tweet is spot on! Here's a bit:
...if Christine Niles is insulted by people who are really fed up with her and her sanctimonious wannabe crusade against the SSPX I for myself tend to side with the insulting party, not the insulted one; because for me, being the one who insulted first does not make the guy on the right side of the discussion wrong, but merely intemperate.

...Really, Twitter gets out the worst of everybody at lightning speed....How can it be that Niles and Voris don’t know this? 
Mind, the two of them are journalists, that is: professionals of communication. The (in most cases, I am sure) devout Catholics who engage with them generally aren’t. I understand the occasional slip from a non-professional more than the deliberated exploitation of it from the professional.

Therefore, to take some “SSPX loyalist” who loses his patience and is likely having a bad day and take it is an example of the SSPX values and aims is profoundly disingenuous and, in fact, dishonest. It is bad enough from the side of Niles, it is even worse from the side of Voris, who then uses a single episode to tarnish all the followers and supporters of the SSPX as “cult members” . [Read Mundabor's entire post here - if you care enough. Internecine warfare gets pretty tiresome after awhile.] 
The Church definitely has a sex abuse problem. The Vatican has a problem. Every diocese has a problem. Every religious order has a problem. Look for dissent and you will probably find homosexuality and other sexual sins associated with it. They go together. That's not to say you won't find sexual predators among the orthodox. In my own diocese a number of homosexual priests hid behind orthodoxy before they were exposed.

Don't misunderstand what I'm saying. Every parent who discovers their child has been abused, no matter who the abuser is -- priest, bishop, teacher, coach, etc. should report it to police for a criminal investigation, charges, and a trial. But some of what passes for "investigation" at CM is laughable! 

I watched Niles' interview with Jassy Jasac with regard to Fr. Pierre Duverger. Jasac told Niles that Fr. Duverger advised her to confront her abuser and TALK TO HER PARENTS! Does that sound like the advice of someone "grooming" her? Did Niles follow up on that? Did she ask if she talked to her parents? Did she ask what their reaction was? No! Those questions wouldn't support the narrative of the evil SSPX priest "grooming" the poor child of the "Me Too" generation. 

And what kind of investigator starts her interview with acceptance of the accusation as fact ("This grooming that took place with you...") and then goes on to accept every single word of the accuser as gospel truth and an accurate interpretation of what happened without question? How much of Niles other reporting shows the same sloppy (and biased) approach? 

We've seen false accusations from women many times: Anita Hill, Christine Blasey-Ford, the woman who falsely accused three members of the Duke lacrosse team of rape. False accusations are not rare. In fact, studies done by the Air Force, Purdue, and other institutions in the 1980s and 1990s showed that 40-60% of rape accusations were false. And their definition of a "false accusation" was stringent. The accusers had to recant! Here are 36 cases of false accusations including the notorious accusation by Jane Roe of Roe v. Wade (Norma McCorvey) that gave us abortion on demand.

We all need to be careful to avoid the sins of calumny, detraction, and slander. Those making accusations need to be questioned carefully. Do they have an axe to grind? Have they interpreted events accurately? Is there solid evidence to back up their claims: eye witnesses, text messages, emails? Is the person credible? Is there a blue dress?

We all have a right to our good name! 

Note in the video above, that exaggeration is one of the sins of detraction. Should we slander every diocesan priest and bishop because of the small percentage of diocesan priests and bishops (which, nevertheless, is in the thousands) who abused children? Should we slander every member of the SSPX community for the sins of the few?

Exaggeration is exactly what Voris and Niles did in their tweet. It certainly doesn't add to their credibility. 

 

Stop for a moment of silence, ask Jesus Christ what He want you to do now and next. In this silence remember God, Father, Son and Holy Ghost - Three Divine Persons yet One God, has an ordered universe where you can know truth and falsehood as well as never forget that He wants you to have eternal happiness with Him as his son or daughter by grace. Make this a practice. By doing this you are doing more good than reading anything here or anywhere else on the Internet.

Francis Notes:

- Doctor of the Church St. Francis de Sales totally confirmed beyond any doubt the possibility of a heretical pope and what must be done by the Church in such a situation:

"[T]he Pope... WHEN he is EXPLICITLY a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church, and the Church MUST either deprive him, or, as some say, declare him deprived, of his Apostolic See."
(The Catholic Controversy, by St. Francis de Sales, Pages 305-306)


Saint Robert Bellarmine, also, said "the Pope heretic is not deposed ipso facto, but must be declared deposed by the Church."
[https://archive.org/stream/SilveiraImplicationsOfNewMissaeAndHereticPopes/Silveira%20Implications%20of%20New%20Missae%20and%20Heretic%20Popes_djvu.txt]

- "If Francis is a Heretic, What should Canonically happen to him?": http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2020/12/if-francis-is-heretic-what-should.html

- "Could Francis be a Antipope even though the Majority of Cardinals claim he is Pope?": http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2019/03/could-francis-be-antipope-even-though.html

 -  LifeSiteNews, "Confusion explodes as Pope Francis throws magisterial weight behind communion for adulterers," December 4, 2017:

The AAS guidelines explicitly allows "sexually active adulterous couples facing 'complex circumstances' to 'access the sacraments of Reconciliation and the Eucharist.'"

-  On February 2018, in Rorate Caeli, Catholic theologian Dr. John Lamont:

"The AAS statement... establishes that Pope Francis in Amoris Laetitia has affirmed propositions that are heretical in the strict sense."

- On December 2, 2017, Bishop Rene Gracida:

"Francis' heterodoxy is now official. He has published his letter to the Argentina bishops in Acta Apostlica Series making those letters magisterial documents."

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church by the bishops by the grace of God.

Election Notes:  

- Intel Cryptanalyst-Mathematician on Biden Steal: "212Million Registered Voters & 66.2% Voting,140.344 M Voted...Trump got 74 M, that leaves only 66.344 M for Biden" [http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2020/12/intel-cryptanalyst-mathematician-on.html?m=1]

- Will US be Venezuela?: Ex-CIA Official told Epoch Times "Chávez started to Focus on [Smartmatic] Voting Machines to Ensure Victory as early as 2003": http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2020/12/will-us-be-venezuela-ex-cia-official.html

- Tucker Carlson's Conservatism Inc. Biden Steal Betrayal is explained by “One of the Greatest Columns ever Written" according to Rush: http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/tucker-carlsons-conservatism-inc-biden.html?m=1
 
- A Hour which will Live in Infamy: 10:01pm November 3, 2020:
http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2021/01/a-hour-which-will-live-in-infamy-1001pm.html?m=1
 
What is needed right now to save America from those who would destroy our God given rights is to pray at home or in church and if called to even go to outdoor prayer rallies in every town and city across the United States for God to pour out His grace on our country to save us from those who would use a Reichstag Fire-like incident to destroy our civil liberties. [Is the DC Capitol Incident Comparable to the Nazi Reichstag Fire Incident where the German People Lost their Civil Liberties?: http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/is-dc-capital-incident-comparable-to.html?m=1 and Epoch Times Show Crossroads on Capitol Incident: "Anitfa 'Agent Provocateurs'":
http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/epoch-times-show-crossroads-on-capital.html?m=1

Pray an Our Father now for the grace to know God's Will and to do it.
 
Pray an Our Father now for America.
 
Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
 
Fr. Walijewski, pray for Bishop Callahan to retract his decision about Fr. Altman!

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