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Would "the Consecration of Russia to Mary’s Immaculate Heart by an Antipope, even if —ahem— it were done in good faith... be an occasion of the loss of faith of millions"? Can Taylor Marshall & Bishop Schneider answer this Question?

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"Here is a quote that comes to mind, from the Leaflets of the White Rose resistance group of the 1940s:  "We must attack evil where it is strongest, and it is strongest in the power of Hitler."  Evidently, Taylor Marshall and Bishop Schneider do not agree with this.  There they are on Marshall's most recent podcast, debating a point about the post-Vatican II liturgy.  A good point; true.  Yet regarding Bergoglio they maintain their steadfast, self-imposed, self-serving  above-my-paygrade silence." - The Catholic Monitor   

Today, the Saint Louis Catholic stated "the identity of the Holy Father is of waaaaay more importance to the average Catholic than the 'above my paygrade/keep my head down and try to get to heaven' contingent lets on":

Getting it right is the key to unraveling the disaster of heresy and tyranny that has been promoted for the last nine years. It is the key to defense of the Mass and Sacraments.

And it is the key to the conversion of Russia, as our Lady of Fatima promised she would bring about after the Holy Father consecrates Russia to Mary’s Immaculate Heart in union with the Bishops of the world.



It is not hard to imagine that, when this consecration is made, if the conversion of Russia does not happen and a period of peace does not ensue, many may lose their confidence in Fatima, their confidence in the Church, or perhaps just lose their faith entirely. You know– a distilled and immediate version of what has happened by slow drip from 1962-2022.

On the other hand, perhaps Our Lady, in the plan of God’s holy Providence, has decided to show a definitive proof of the identity of the Pope. If Bergoglio consecrates Russia and it works, maybe he really is pope. Mea culpa from me. But if he does his consecration and nothing good happens, would that by itself be enough to confirm the Benedict is still Pope? We shall see.

Only the Pope could have answered the dubia. Only the pope can consecrate Russia according to Mary’s request.

If Cardinal Burke, or any Cardinal for that matter, or any active Bishop, or perhaps Archbishop Vigano, could see his way to address at last the identity of the Pope publicly, please? Not that it is strictly speaking relevant to the question of whether the putative abdication was valid, but it could really help to strengthen those Catholics who are left.

Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us! []

Pray an Our Father now for reparation for the sins committed because of Francis's Amoris Laetitia.

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Stop for a moment of silence, ask Jesus Christ what He wants you to do now and next. In this silence remember God, Father, Son and Holy Ghost - Three Divine Persons yet One God, has an ordered universe where you can know truth and falsehood as well as never forget that He wants you to have eternal happiness with Him as his son or daughter by grace. Make this a practice. By doing this you are doing more good than reading anything here or anywhere else on the Internet.

Francis Notes:

- Doctor of the Church St. Francis de Sales totally confirmed beyond any doubt the possibility of a heretical pope and what must be done by the Church in such a situation:

"[T]he Pope... WHEN he is EXPLICITLY a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church, and the Church MUST either deprive him, or, as some say, declare him deprived, of his Apostolic See."
(The Catholic Controversy, by St. Francis de Sales, Pages 305-306)

Saint Robert Bellarmine, also, said "the Pope heretic is not deposed ipso facto, but must be declared deposed by the Church."

- "If Francis is a Heretic, What should Canonically happen to him?":

- "Could Francis be a Antipope even though the Majority of Cardinals claim he is Pope?":

- If Francis betrays Benedict XVI & the"Roman Rite Communities" like he betrayed the Chinese Catholics we must respond like St. Athanasius, the Saintly English Bishop Robert Grosseteste & "Eminent Canonists and Theologians" by "Resist[ing]" him: 

 -  LifeSiteNews, "Confusion explodes as Pope Francis throws magisterial weight behind communion for adulterers," December 4, 2017:

The AAS guidelines explicitly allows "sexually active adulterous couples facing 'complex circumstances' to 'access the sacraments of Reconciliation and the Eucharist.'"

-  On February 2018, in Rorate Caeli, Catholic theologian Dr. John Lamont:

"The AAS statement... establishes that Pope Francis in Amoris Laetitia has affirmed propositions that are heretical in the strict sense."

- On December 2, 2017, Bishop Rene Gracida:

"Francis' heterodoxy is now official. He has published his letter to the Argentina bishops in Acta Apostlica Series making those letters magisterial documents."

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church by the bishops by the grace of God.

Election Notes:  

- Intel Cryptanalyst-Mathematician on Biden Steal: "212Million Registered Voters & 66.2% Voting,140.344 M Voted...Trump got 74 M, that leaves only 66.344 M for Biden" []

- Will US be Venezuela?: Ex-CIA Official told Epoch Times "Chávez started to Focus on [Smartmatic] Voting Machines to Ensure Victory as early as 2003":

- Tucker Carlson's Conservatism Inc. Biden Steal Betrayal is explained by “One of the Greatest Columns ever Written" according to Rush:
- A Hour which will Live in Infamy: 10:01pm November 3, 2020:
What is needed right now to save America from those who would destroy our God given rights is to pray at home or in church and if called to even go to outdoor prayer rallies in every town and city across the United States for God to pour out His grace on our country to save us from those who would use a Reichstag Fire-like incident to destroy our civil liberties. [Is the DC Capitol Incident Comparable to the Nazi Reichstag Fire Incident where the German People Lost their Civil Liberties?: and Epoch Times Show Crossroads on Capitol Incident: "Anitfa 'Agent Provocateurs'":

Pray an Our Father now for the grace to know God's Will and to do it.
Pray an Our Father now for America.
Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.


Aqua said…
"Michael @ pilgrim center San Sebastián Garabandal" made another point in regards to this. I found it compelling

- quote ... and it's his entire comment" -

"Let’s consider this consecration in relationship to the actions of the False Prophet forerunner of the Antichrist.
Let’s say that Bergoglio does the consecration as reported – BUT – instead of being another botched job this one actually appears to bear fruit. Not a true peace, but the illusion of peace as part of another diabolically orchestrated plan in order for Bergoglio to gain universal acceptance among the nations. The complicit Luciferian controlled media quickly embrace Bergoglio as responsible for achieving peace to worldwide acclaim.

You’ll recall the warning of Our Lord in St. Matthew’s Gospel:
“For there shall arise false christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect” – Matt 24:24

It is a reasonable supposition that the False Prophet will work signs and lying wonders. These “lying wonders” will gain credence for himself among unbelievers. The False Prophet may then persuade all infidels, apostates and apostate nations that salvation comes through the Globalist Great Reset New World Order of the Antichrist. (edited quote from Fr. Herman Kramer, The Book of Destiny, pdf p. 283; See also 2 Thessalonians 2:9)"

- end quote -

A seemingly miraculous success might be the secret sauce that they used to compel obedience among all,people on earth - glad to be saved from destruction snd willing to follow wherever such a wise and "holy" man might lead. Except - as in the book Lord Of the World (Robert Hugh Benson) - Christ is absent, replaced by wise benevolent rulers that worship "higher powers" and the ultimate deity is the peoples of mankind.

Basically, if he's an antipope, there is nothing good that can possibly come from this consecration; even if it *appears* to be good (as Michael proposes), it will still be bad, because God is not in it - by definition it is dead, it belongs to Satan ... it is a binary choice.

I simply can't understand how any Catholic can be Agnostic about the identity of the Pope. It is the most important visible, physical thing in our Church. This possible Fatima consecration is but a glaring recent example. In infinite practical and meaningful ways, the Pope is crucial to our Faith; an antipope is deadly. It goes on and on as we descend further snd further into the brink.
Anonymous said…
Considering “it’s above my pay grade” I give this parable:

Middle school math students have just learned algebra. They know that 1 + 1 = 2. They are wondering what 2 + 2 is. One boy chirps up it is 4. The rest of the students are incredulous. “How do you know?” He just says they must take what they know and multiply both side by two. Then they protest he is arrogant and has no authority to tell them what 2 + 2 is. “Only the teacher can tell us what 2 + 2 is.”

One can understand that a non-Catholic can’t run the Catholic Church without canonically declaring it. What isn’t lawfully declared isn’t morally binding on others. But God knows exactly what you are thinking. He knows when you understand the Church’s teachings on heresy and the papacy. Even if no one else is bound by your thoughts, you are. Just like heresy automatically kicking you out without nobody declaring it.
Anonymous said…
What I am saying is that just because something is the case it does not mean the law will instantly declare it. Just because nobody has yet lawfully declared it doesn’t mean it isn’t ontologically true.

I’ve found that many people suppose canon law is divine law.
Aqua said…
Anonymous: No "like" buttons here, so ... this will have to do. Simple parables like this really do serve to clarify the obscure. And it is a perfect response to those who insist we must accept injustice and fraud because that is what we are told to do by wicked me in the Church (men are variously wicked, Holy Mother Church is pure).

It really serves to underscore the duty we all share to participate in and defend the body of Truth which is Sacred Tradition - the quantifiable patrimony which is over and above any living man, even a Pope whose duty is to serve and protect that which is handed down to us all (not just him).

I have often referred to a similar parable: One is witness to a murder. You know the murder happened because you saw it with your own eyes - you were there, or watched in closed circuit tv. You can't render judgement and execute the perpetrator based on your knowledge - only competent authority can formally declare verdict and sentence. That doesn't change what you know. And a judgement that alters the facts to an unjust judgement - "his race or experiences nullified the crime, and renders him legally innocent" - does not make him "ontologically" innocent.

Lies and deceptions seem to be the spirit of the age - the spiritual air we breath. It is very difficult to remain within the structure of truth in such times as these. Keeping it simple, like you do here, helps a lot.
D.E. Meikle said…
So now we have Francis apparently doing what no other pope since 1917 had the guts, Faith or resolve to do: Consecrate Russia. It has been previously avoided because of the politics involved.

Well maybe this will be our moment of sign, but perhaps it will work out differently than many think:

1) If Francis IS a valid and licit pope (issues where there are real dubia) then we have a problem. A resulting supernatural Grace from this consecration would be seen by many as validation of his papacy. Francis is an open collaborator with the ideas of the “World Economic Forum” and the globalist “New World Order”(WEF/NOW). If Francis' telos is correct, then the previous Faith of 2,000 years will have been shown to have been false, they cannot both be true (law of non-contradiction); or

2) If Francis is NOT valid/licit and he attempts this consecration he does so without juridic authority. Which means he invites some pretty nasty stuff demon-wise upon himself and those in union with him. Catholic blogger Ann Barnhardt thinks may cause a nuke war. (I don’t agree- I think if the public Francis consecration does not help resolve things, it will cause a loss of faith in Fatima (and its real message which has never been properly distributed)).

Interesting times. Pray for the Ukraine, and pray that the Consecration of Russia happens as Our Lady directs and God wills, however that may come about. if Benedict is not publicly involved, I question the whole event next week,

T said…
I propose a third possibility. His friends in the NWO cult arrange for false peace. Catholics are convinced he is true pope. His detractors are branded schismatic and heretics. Everything is the last 9 years is forgotten.

Or maybe 4. Benedict consecrates from the Vatican during the ceremony. Everything trusts in Francis. Basically a crazier version of 3 and just unlikely. God wouldn’t allow it, right?

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