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Might Great Schism Cardinal's Lying to St. Vincent shed light on why Cdl. Burke appears to be running away from a Canon law Expert & apparently is Lying?

Canon law expert Br. Alexis Bugnolo gives a brief summary of why Saint Vincent Ferrer was wrong on who was the real pope during the Great Western Schism. It appears that this history may shed light on our present crisis on why Cardinal Raymond Burke appears to be running away from Br. Bugnolo and apparently is lying:





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Aaron said…
Mr. Martinez,

As with Abbe de Nantes who accused P.Paul VI and P. John Paul II of heresy and did not receive a reply, so it was with St. Vincent. Interestingly, if, as Fr. Villa suggests, P. Francis is not pope and Benedict, emeritus, is pope, P. Francis can be examined and judged heretical (or not) by any competent Church authority. Else, as demonstrated by Abbe de Nantes, the only one who can judge P. Francis is...P. Francis.
Fred Martinez said…
Make a choice:

Doctor of the Church St. Francis de Sales vs. the non-Doctor of the Church, non-saint and even within traditionalist circles considered a bit controversial by some Abbe de Nantes.

Easy choice.
Aaron said…
Mr Martinez,

While that may be so, the decision might also be framed as: choose 38 years delay as a result of human respect or respond to the heresies as they develop and appear: St. Vincent, the former (human respect and trust in Cardinal Pedro, a flaw adamantly decried by St. John Bosco) or Abbe de Nantes, the latter(considered, as indicated, controversial).

Nearly 60 years on from the Second Vatican Council, how much more must be lost because of those whose primary duty does not clearly seem to be the salvation of souls?

The choice, in charity, is to deny human respect: deny the so-called Cult of Man.
Debbie said…
For what it's worth: I met his Eminence Cardinal Burke this past October at the Call to Holiness Conference here in Michigan. I presented him with a copy of the book 'The Shepherd and the Rock" by J. Michael Miller, C.S.B. When I handed it to him he said he already had this in his library. I asked him to please take it any way because I'd written a note on the inside cover. He smiled and took it. I'd never met a bishop or cardinal before and was nervous. All I could think to say was, please help us, he's not the Pope.
Alexis Bugnolo said…
Aron,

If you believe someone is a heretic, you can ask him in private or write a letter. But when he does not respond, you must follow Jesus' rule and approach him with others as witnesses and if he still wont reply, you denounce him to Church authorities. Did the Abbe do that? or was his letter a publicity stunt?
Aaron said…
Br. Alexis Bugnolo,

With great esteem for your thought and work, I thank you for your reply.

From what I can glean, Abbe de Nantes was at first inclined to hope in P.Paul VI, particularly upon hearing his discourse on the Virgin Mary and Corpus Christi May 1964. That all evaporated with the publication of Ecclesiam Suam in August that year.

What, then, did Jesus say to do in the event that the person, believed to be a heretic, is not only "a" Church authority, but is "the" Church authority? Apostolic tradition suggests one such solution in Galatians 2 and this action is echoed by The Remnant, the Dubia Cardinals et cetera. Perhaps Abbe de Nantes has simply provided philosophical and theological justification for requiring the Successor of Peter to judge himself, that he might not be in error?

Nevertheless, this poses an even graver quandary, particularly today: suppose the current Bishop of Rome is accused of heresy and, following Abbe de Nantes, he invokes papal infallibility to render judgement(of which he may or may not possess...A. Barnhardt et al.):
a) He is pope and any heresy is pronounced and/or renounced
b) He is not pope, further cementing the Conciliar experiment

Eschatologically speaking, while there are precursors to the anti-Christ, there also exist precursors to the Second Coming of Christ, of which, I believe, are to be seen Henoch-type and Elijah-type men. Like Father Luigi Villa. Like Abbe de Nantes. And, yes, like you Brother Alexis.

So, no, I don't think his letters, books and other publications were a publicity stunt.

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