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Does Fatima Controversy Disclose Francis' Vatican Press Office is Less Trusted than the Old USSR Pravda?

Why is Francis' Vatican Press Office less trusted than Pravda by many middle of the road faithful orthodox Catholics?

Why the panic-attack denial from the Vatican Press Office just because the Fatima message supposedly said the apostasy in the Church will start at the very top?

These comments comes from Fr. Z's blog which bends over backwards to be fair to Pope Francis, but does call a spade a spade.

These commenters are generally intelligent and well read Catholics. They are not radical traditionalist. Fr. Z is very heavy handed in deleting Rad Trads as they are called.

You'll find the same type of  comments by many middle of the road faithful orthodox Catholics on The Catholic Thing (TCT). One of the revealing comments on faithful Catholics distrust of the present man in St. Peter's office on TCT was something like don't worry, pray and don't listen to Pope Francis.

Cornelius says:

I don’t understand all the focus on the Fatima message. Yes, purportedly the BVM said the apostasy in the Church will start at the very top. But that’s obvious isn’t it? It happening before our eyes. AL seeks to justify/rationalize a permanent state of adultery – if this isn’t the most flagrant rejection of divine truth then I don’t know what is.


johnthemad says:

I have no idea whether the entire message of Our Lady at Fatima has been published or not. Nor am I one to spend much time fretting over it. Working in government for many years I can say, however, that the statement of the Vatican Press Office reads like political spin, intended to convey a certain message without explicitly stating the facts by selectively telling the truth.
The Vatican has a major problem on its hands as many of the faithful do not trust statements emerging from that source. The lack of trust appears to be well earned in this pontificate. It is a self-inflicted wound.
 
DJAR says:
padredana says: I hope those who were spreading the lies which lead the Pope Emeritus to clarify things will make public retractions.
Father Dollinger has now publicly reiterated that Cardinal Ratzinger did indeed tell him what he initially claimed he said.
 
  1. Benedict Joseph says:
There are other matters for which we hunger to hear Pope Benedict insights. While not wishing to diminish the gravity of the Third Secret of Fatima – the message of Our Lady of Fatima is something I treasure — there are still other serious issues for which we would most grateful to hear Pope Benedict’s comments and clarifications. Surely this is in the awareness of Benedict and his circle, and in the awareness of the inhabitants of the Domus Sanctae Marthae. Just what prioritizes this blip on the screen of contemporary Catholic discussion?
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  2. BarefootPilgrim says:
    Is that what BXVI really said, or is it what the Holy See Press Office says he said?

  1. Tricia says:
    I think it’s impossible to know what Pope Benedict did or did not say because it gets filtered through the Press Office, and we all know there are wolves in the Vatican.

  1. BarefootPilgrim says:
    B16 asked us to pray for him (2005), that he wouldn’t flee for fear of the wolves. They seem to have multiplied since then.

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