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Modernist heretics instead of "pursuing..God..[pursue their] self-center[ed]" self like Francis & "Levinas [who]..encounter with other..misplaced concreteness. Experiencing human faces doesn´t give people who aren´t..[Francis or] Levinas a ton of normative content": "Its..[the self enclosed loveless experience of Francis or Levinas as] one person [not real other person]"

Phenomenology is Sinful St Thomas says curiosity is a sin and a species of pride. It seeks knowledge that either distracts us from pursuing, or is cut off from, our final end. from sanctistulti.substack.com
1), St Thomas says a sinful inordinate appetite for learning, or curiosity ... the wrong tool for the job. Phenomenology isn't going to ...


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The claim that phenomenology is sinful, based on St. Thomas Aquinas' views on curiosity and pride, is a complex one. While Aquinas does argue that excessive curiosity can be sinful, particularly when it distracts from pursuing one's final end, he does not outright condemn all forms of curiosity or knowledge-seeking. His concern is with the intent and direction of curiosity, not with the pursuit of knowledge itself. 
Here's a more detailed breakdown: 
  • Curiosity and Pride:
    St. Thomas argues that excessive curiosity can be a form of pride, as it can lead to a desire for knowledge that is not ultimately directed towards a higher purpose.
  • Distraction and Final End:
    He suggests that curiosity can distract individuals from pursuing their ultimate goal, which is happiness in God. When knowledge is pursued for its own sake, without a connection to a greater good, it can become a form of self-centeredness and a hindrance to spiritual growth.
  • Misuse of Knowledge:
    Aquinas also highlights the potential for individuals to misuse knowledge, even truth, for evil purposes. This can happen when knowledge is used to undermine faith, to create division, or to satisfy personal desires rather than serving a higher good.
  • Lawful and Commendable Study:
    While acknowledging the potential for sin in certain forms of curiosity, Aquinas also recognizes the value of studying philosophy and seeking knowledge. He believes that God has revealed truth to philosophers, and that the study of philosophy can be a means of attaining truth.
  • The Importance of Direction:
    The key is not to dismiss all curiosity, but to ensure that it is directed towards the right goals and serves a higher purpose. When curiosity is used to understand God, to grow in wisdom, or to serve others, it can be a positive force.
  • Question 167. Curiosity - New Advent
    x, 7,8). Hence there may be sin in the knowledge of certain truths, in so far as the desire of such knowledge is not directed in d...
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This passage critiques Emmanuel Levinas' philosophy, arguing that his concept of "the Other" and the ethical implications derived from encountering their faces is overly subjective and lacks a solid grounding in objective reality, contrasting it with the more established Aristotelian natural law ethics which bases morality on the inherent nature of human actions and their ends. 
Key points:
  • Levinas's concept of "the Other":
    Levinas argues that encountering the face of another person transcends our own subjectivity and imposes an ethical obligation to respond to their needs, essentially breaking through our self-centered perspective. 
  • Criticism of "face-to-face mysticism":
    The passage argues that Levinas' idea of ethical revelation through the face is subjective and mystical, lacking a clear objective basis for determining what constitutes ethical behavior. 
  • Comparison to Aristotelian ethics:
    Aristotelian ethics, in contrast, is grounded in the inherent nature of human beings and the pursuit of natural ends, providing a more objective framework for moral decision-making. 
Potential counterarguments:
  • Levinas's emphasis on vulnerability:
    Some defenders of Levinas might argue that his focus on the other person's vulnerability and need for help is a crucial aspect of recognizing their humanity and establishing an ethical connection. 
  • Importance of intersubjectivity:
    Levinas' philosophy emphasizes the transformative power of face-to-face encounters, which can contribute to a deeper understanding of oneself and one's relationship with others. 
  • Being and Being Taught: Levinas, Ethics, Education
    Feb 9, 2022 — The Other that we meet in the face is vulnerable. We can do good or evil to the Other. We can decide to fulfill or not ...
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    Levinas' writing focuses on what he calls the “face-to-face encounter with the other,” an experience in which an individual is mad...
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Emmanuel Levinas

A student of Heidegger, Levinas claims reality, or ethical reality, is constituted primarily through our encounter with the other people. And specifically the faces of other people, who Levinas likes to call The Other. This encounter with other peoples faces breaks through our subjective world and commands us ethically. Levinas says “The way in which the other presents himself, exceeding the idea of the other in me, we here name face... The face of the other at each moment destroys and overflows the plastic image it leaves me, the idea existing to my own measure” (Totality and Infinity (1991), 50-51) Its basically a sort of human face mysticism, as Levinas argues that ethical reality is revealed through the face-to-face encounter with other people. But for him as well the first-person experience, particularly in the presence of another person, is fundamentally transformative in ethical formation. This is perhaps the prime example of misplaced concreteness. Experiencing human faces doesn´t give people who aren´t Emmanuel Levinas a ton of normative content. Its the reification of the bizarre ethical experience of one person. In contast, the entire tradition of aristotelian natural law ethics bases normativity on the entirity of the objective expression of the human lifeform and its tendency and the tendeny of various actions of toward specific ends by nature. [https://sanctistulti.substack.com/p/phenomenology-is-sinful?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1653532&post_id=148585850&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=b9i7w&triedRedirect=true]


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Emmanuel Levinas's philosophical ideas have resonated within Pope Francis' (Bergoglio) theological and political thought, particularly regarding his understanding of ethics, the Other, and the importance of compassion and responsibility. Levinas's concept of the face, representing the irreducible presence of the other, and the priority of responsibility in ethical encounters, have been cited as influencing Bergoglio's social doctrine and his focus on social justice. 
Key Connections:
  • The Other:
    Levinas emphasized the "Other" as a radical alterity, a presence that calls for responsibility and ethical action. This resonates with Bergoglio's call to prioritize the marginalized and those in need, viewing them as sacred and immanent to the human condition.
  • Responsibility:
    Levinas's concept of responsibility as a pre-conscious, sensible responding to the Other's exteriority is a key theme in Bergoglio's moral theology. This aligns with Bergoglio's emphasis on solidarity and the need to take responsibility for the sufferings of others.
  • Ethical Thought:
    Levinas's work critiques rationalism and consciousness as the basis for ethics, instead focusing on the encounter with the Other as the foundation of ethics. This resonates with Bergoglio's rejection of utilitarian approaches to ethics and his emphasis on charity and divine love.
  • Political Thought:
    Bergoglio's social teaching often draws on the importance of dignity and the rights of the marginalized, which aligns with Levinas's critique of power structures that marginalize the vulnerable. 
  • Bergoglio among the phenomenologists.docx
    ... Lévinas and Bergoglio is just as critical. For Lévinas, as we know, the face is what suspends ontology – it is the phenomenon ...
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    Both argue that goodness exists independently of calculative reason—for Nietzsche, goodness arises in a creative act moving beyond...
    Columbia University Press
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