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Is it possible that even Vigano, Trad & Conservative Ultramontanists are Lutherans like Francis because of “the Spirit of Vatican I"?

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- "'Let no mortal being have the audacity to reprimand a Pope on account of faults, for he whose duty it is to judge all men cannot be judged by anybody, unless he should be called to the task of having deviated from the faith. (Si Papa)'"

"Pope Innocent III: 'For me the faith is so necessary that, whereas for other sins my only judge is God, for the slightest sin in the matter of the faith I could be judged by the Church.' (propter solum peccatum quod in fide commititur possem ab Ecclesia judican)" - 
Pope Innocent III (1198-1216) in "Si Papa" (The Remnant, "Answering a Sedevacantist Critic," March 18, 2015)

The first cause is what I have called “the spirit of Vatican I”—Vatican I, mind you. That council gave a narrow definition of papal infalllibility together with a broad description of the pope’s unique position as vicar of Christ in the visible body of the Church on earth. Tragically, instead of being accepted in its modesty and understood in continuity with the fuller understanding of the papacy’s relationship with tradition that I have summarized in this talk, the constitution Pastor Aeternus was taken by many as an endorsement of a hyperpapalism that concentrates all authority, all truth, all law, and the sum total of “Catholic identity” in the papal office and in the very person of the pope, as if it then emanates from him to every other authority. Although the most flamboyant ultramontanes lost at the council, their cultus of the Roman Pontiff not only survived but thrived, leading over time to the phenomenon of the superstar pope whose every word and action is transmitted instantly across the globe to a palpitating audience awaiting guidance. - Theologian Dr. Peter Kwasniewski

"And I repeat: we are not talking about a legitimate operation, but of an abuse that, despite being an abuse, no one would be able to prevent, since “the First See is judged by none” – prima Sedes a nemine judicatur. And since the deposition of a heretical Pope is a canonically unresolved question on which there is no unanimous consent of canonists, anyone who would accuse Bergoglio of heresy would be going down a dead end and would obtain a result only with great difficulty." - Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò [https://www.marcotosatti.com/2020/10/23/vigano-the-pope-and-the-gay-lobby-in-the-vatican-intentional-ambiguity/]

 - "Destroy the Mass and you destroy the Church." - Martin Luther

Is it possible that even Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, Traditionalist & Conservative Catholic ultramontanists are Lutherans like Francis?

It appears that Francis has joined Martin Luther in believing in the heresy of imputed grace justification.

Francis referring to Luther said:

"Lutherans and Catholics, Protestants, all of us agree on the doctrine of justification. On this point, which is very important, he did not err." (patheos.com/blog/scotticalt, "Pope Francis is Wrong about Luther and Justification," April 5, 2017)

Conservative theologian Dr. E. Christian Brugger and First Thing editor Elliott Milco agree that Francis's grace/justification teachings in Amoris Laetitia and his Argentine letter apparently are condemned as heretical by the Council of Trent.

Milco in his article "Francis's Argentine Letter And The Proper Response" counters Francis's idea of grace with the infallible Catholic teaching which says:

Trent's doctrine of infused grace said "that graces truly sanctify and liberates, and that baptized Christians are always free to fulfill the moral law, even when they fail to do so."

Francis is denying the very concept of Catholic sanctifying grace and justification.

This is the greatest material error by any pope or antipope is the entire history of the Church.

It needs to be "loudly and forcefully condemned" or it will lead to apostasy and will destroy the vast majority of the Christian faith worldwide as it did in Luther's Northern Europe up to the present day.

In 2017, Former Congregation for the Doctrine consultor Msgr. Nicola Bux under Pope Benedict XVI told Vatican expert Edward Pentin that Francis is spreading "apostasy":

"Francis could stem the 'confusion and apostasy"... by 'correcting' his own 'ambiguous and erroneous words and acts." (lifesitenews.com, "Only Pope Francis can end the 'apostasy' his words caused: Italian monsignor," June 21, 2017) 

Francis isn't ending the "apostasy." Instead he appears to be joining Luther in attempting to "destroy the Church."  

But, in what way are Vignao, Traditionalist and conservative ultramontanists Lutherans like Francis?

Theologian Dr. Peter Kwasniewski in a talk in Denver explained how they are Lutheran-like in his lecture “The Pope’s Boundenness to Tradition as a Legislative Limit: Replying to Ultramontanist Apologetics":

This lecture will not be an extensive critique of Traditionis Custodes—that can be found in many other places at this point.[1] Rather, I want to explain how we reached a point of such absurdity that a Roman Pontiff can dare, with the stroke of a pen, to consign to the margins and to eventual oblivion an unbroken liturgical patrimony of millennia and to claim that the new rites created by committee under Paul VI are the “only” (unica) lex orandi or law of prayer of the Catholic Church—and the even greater absurdity that there are Catholic apologists defending him and his purported “right” to do so.

The fundamental flaw of these apologists is that, like their doppelgänger [Lutheran] Protestant opponents, they have fallen for the technique of proof-texting. Instead of sola scriptura, it is often solo papa; where the Calvinist quotes St. Paul on justification by faith alone, the papalist quotes a conciliar dictum on universal papal jurisdiction. Actually, all controversialists (including rad trads) have a tendency to proof-text, as if it concludes a debate, when, in reality, it only starts it. For one must not only quote a passage from Scripture, the Fathers, the Doctors, or the Magisterium, one must also understand when, where, why, and how it was stated—in other words, its context. Some texts are clear enough that they do the heavy lifting for us, but others are subtle, partial, overstated, understated, etc., and need to be fitted into their place like stones into a wall. It is the wall that we are looking for, not the individual stones torn out of it.[2]
 
Thus, Catholic apologists love to quote the First Vatican Council ...
 
...  Even if for the sake of argument we were to grant that the document has legal force (at least to the extent that it is intelligible) and that its provisions fall within what the pope can do, we would still have the right and the duty to strive for its repeal and to resist it in every way open to us. For it would still be a tyrannical use of power by which a hierarch lords it over his subjects and strips them of what belongs to them, and, in fact, seeks ultimately the liquidation of a minority in the Church, much as the Chinese Communist Party, with whom the Vatican has a secret alliance, rounds up ethnic and religious minorities and puts them in “reeducation camps” where they can learn how to be model Chinese citizens.

How did we reach this point, where instead of a pope who receives, guards, promotes, and hands on tradition, we have a pope who has attempted to unleash a global war against Catholics, against priests, religious, and laity, who are doing what he is supposed to be doing? That is a huge question for which another lecture would be needed, but let me give an outline of an answer. There are two primary causes.

The first cause is what I have called “the spirit of Vatican I”—Vatican I, mind you. That council gave a narrow definition of papal infalllibility together with a broad description of the pope’s unique position as vicar of Christ in the visible body of the Church on earth. Tragically, instead of being accepted in its modesty and understood in continuity with the fuller understanding of the papacy’s relationship with tradition that I have summarized in this talk, the constitution Pastor Aeternus was taken by many as an endorsement of a hyperpapalism that concentrates all authority, all truth, all law, and the sum total of “Catholic identity” in the papal office and in the very person of the pope, as if it then emanates from him to every other authority. Although the most flamboyant ultramontanes lost at the council, their cultus of the Roman Pontiff not only survived but thrived, leading over time to the phenomenon of the superstar pope whose every word and action is transmitted instantly across the globe to a palpitating audience awaiting guidance. This has tended to weaken the Catholic instinct for receiving the truth of the Faith from a rich network of sources by which it comes to us: Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition, the monuments of ecclesiastical tradition (the greatest of which is the Sacred Liturgy), the Fathers and Doctors of the Church, the great mystical and ascetical saints, popular devotions and customs. It has, moreover, substituted a new kind of epistemology or theory of knowledge in which our access to the truth is had not so much by the exercise of the virtue of faith and the power of reason on their proper objects as by the subjugation of one’s intellect and will to a hierarchical superior’s intellect and will, taken as a sole and sufficient measure of truth. Obedience is then reinterpreted as evacuating oneself of one’s own knowledge and judgment in order to be filled with whatever content is filled in, with no questions asked about how it is or is not in harmony with any other content from any other source. Now, Catholicism is inherently about hierarchical submission, and the virtue of obedience is precious to us; but as we know, corruptio optimi pessima, the corruption of the best is the worst: there is a rightful and a wrongful submission, a true and a false obedience, and the difference can be dramatic. Such distinctions are seldom made because we are all under the influence of an exaggeratedly Jesuit notion of blind obedience (which I will not blame on St. Ignatius of Loyola whose birthday into eternal life we celebrate today, but rather on his successors[44]), and, consequently, we have lost a richer sensus Catholicus of the norms that govern Christian life and thought. Returning then to ultramontanism, we see in it a confluence of several factors: a growing tendency for the Church to imitate the absolutism of the modern State, together with the breakdown of intermediate, subsidiary legal structures and cultural centers of gravity that acted as “checks and balances,” so to speak, on centralized authority and monopolizing ideas;[45] a kind of clericalism and triumphalism that are not at all the same as celebrating the dignity of the priesthood and the reign of Christ the King; and, as I mentioned, a Jesuit notion of blind obedience to religious authority. If you put all these things together, you end up with the view that the Church is ruled by an absolute monarch[46] whose ideas are right, whose will is law, whose power unlimitedly surpasses all history, custom, tradition, or even prior magisterial teaching. He is a Delphic oracle, a mortal god, an image of divine omnipotence, a concentration of all of Catholicism. This, needless to say, is not and cannot be what the papacy is.[47] [https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2021/08/the-popes-boundenness-to-tradition-as.html]
 

Pray an Our Father now for reparation for the sins committed because of Francis's Amoris Laetitia.

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Stop for a moment of silence, ask Jesus Christ what He wants you to do now and next. In this silence remember God, Father, Son and Holy Ghost - Three Divine Persons yet One God, has an ordered universe where you can know truth and falsehood as well as never forget that He wants you to have eternal happiness with Him as his son or daughter by grace. Make this a practice. By doing this you are doing more good than reading anything here or anywhere else on the Internet.

Francis Notes:

- Doctor of the Church St. Francis de Sales totally confirmed beyond any doubt the possibility of a heretical pope and what must be done by the Church in such a situation:

"[T]he Pope... WHEN he is EXPLICITLY a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church, and the Church MUST either deprive him, or, as some say, declare him deprived, of his Apostolic See."
(The Catholic Controversy, by St. Francis de Sales, Pages 305-306)


Saint Robert Bellarmine, also, said "the Pope heretic is not deposed ipso facto, but must be declared deposed by the Church."
[https://archive.org/stream/SilveiraImplicationsOfNewMissaeAndHereticPopes/Silveira%20Implications%20of%20New%20Missae%20and%20Heretic%20Popes_djvu.txt]

- "If Francis is a Heretic, What should Canonically happen to him?": http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2020/12/if-francis-is-heretic-what-should.html

- "Could Francis be a Antipope even though the Majority of Cardinals claim he is Pope?": http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2019/03/could-francis-be-antipope-even-though.html

 -  LifeSiteNews, "Confusion explodes as Pope Francis throws magisterial weight behind communion for adulterers," December 4, 2017:

The AAS guidelines explicitly allows "sexually active adulterous couples facing 'complex circumstances' to 'access the sacraments of Reconciliation and the Eucharist.'"

-  On February 2018, in Rorate Caeli, Catholic theologian Dr. John Lamont:

"The AAS statement... establishes that Pope Francis in Amoris Laetitia has affirmed propositions that are heretical in the strict sense."

- On December 2, 2017, Bishop Rene Gracida:

"Francis' heterodoxy is now official. He has published his letter to the Argentina bishops in Acta Apostlica Series making those letters magisterial documents."

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church by the bishops by the grace of God.

Election Notes:  

- Intel Cryptanalyst-Mathematician on Biden Steal: "212Million Registered Voters & 66.2% Voting,140.344 M Voted...Trump got 74 M, that leaves only 66.344 M for Biden" [http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2020/12/intel-cryptanalyst-mathematician-on.html?m=1]

- Will US be Venezuela?: Ex-CIA Official told Epoch Times "Chávez started to Focus on [Smartmatic] Voting Machines to Ensure Victory as early as 2003": http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2020/12/will-us-be-venezuela-ex-cia-official.html

- Tucker Carlson's Conservatism Inc. Biden Steal Betrayal is explained by “One of the Greatest Columns ever Written" according to Rush: http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/tucker-carlsons-conservatism-inc-biden.html?m=1
 
- A Hour which will Live in Infamy: 10:01pm November 3, 2020:
http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2021/01/a-hour-which-will-live-in-infamy-1001pm.html?m=1
 
What is needed right now to save America from those who would destroy our God given rights is to pray at home or in church and if called to even go to outdoor prayer rallies in every town and city across the United States for God to pour out His grace on our country to save us from those who would use a Reichstag Fire-like incident to destroy our civil liberties. [Is the DC Capitol Incident Comparable to the Nazi Reichstag Fire Incident where the German People Lost their Civil Liberties?: http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/is-dc-capital-incident-comparable-to.html?m=1 and Epoch Times Show Crossroads on Capitol Incident: "Anitfa 'Agent Provocateurs'":
http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/epoch-times-show-crossroads-on-capital.html?m=1

Pray an Our Father now for the grace to know God's Will and to do it.
 
Pray an Our Father now for America.
 
Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
 

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